Greg

"sudden paradigm change"???. Metro design language has been around for at least 
2 years as part of the Windows Phone development story. They've talked about it 
at virtually every major Microsft dev event since, including the new interface 
for Xbox. Whilst there are nuances to the Windows 8 story, it's still the same 
basic design language.

Having built for both Windows Phone and now recently Windows 8 it's made easy 
by the awesome tooling (which you'd be used to with WPF and Silverlight) - VS 
and Blend. The Win8 tooling is still a little fragile, it is after all still 
beta. Having built on other mobile platforms and having to suffer their dev 
tools, Microsoft is definitely doing a great job in terms of providing the 
tooling and guidance to developers on how to build on their new platform.


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From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Friday, 8 June 2012 8:06 AM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: Win8 Release Preview


>sorry Greg, you indicated that you thought it's more confusing now,

>I completely disagree as the metro guidelines are very strong)



A web search for "Windows 8 design guidelines" produces some possibly useful 
information, and some of it is frightening. Where are the technical guidelines 
for developers?



http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/hh464920.aspx



>From this, I can understand that the points are admirable and must be the 
>result of vast amounts of research into how our eyes and brains work: clear, 
>clean, touch, scaling, charms, tiles, roaming, suspend, etc. It all generally 
>makes ergonomic and usability sense.



Yes it's all certainly an admirable mission to implement these things. But I'm 
quite upset at the degree of sudden paradigm change and the lack of warning and 
advertising (even as a developer). Even if "the metro guidelines are very 
strong", they're completely mutated away from any guidelines that have gone 
before.



I'm extra angry simply because of the extra workload and burden of leaning yet 
another suddenly released standard. Development is hard enough already with a 
huge mess of kits, tools, operating systems, languages and patterns all 
competing with each other and giving me too much choice (too much choice is a 
bad thing!). Now I have Win8 and Metro on top if it all, just more sh*t to bog 
me down and waste more time futzing around in what I know will be hopeless 
hair-tearing frustration where everything doesn't work.



So I guess I'll have to try and develop a Win8 compliant app and see how 
difficult it is. How anyone done this and can report from the coal face of 
coding?



Greg

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