Well if you read my original comments I never claimed anything but rumours/speculation
I then said the rumours/speculation were for both sides of the argumet I then said I made my "Asumptions/Guess" from them, I never claimed anyone knew ahead of time, including myself feels a bit like I am in a court case becuase I remember crap I read/saw/listened to a year+ ago I not sure if WP8 will be a success or not, but seems to me like they are going to have the advantage in respect to having PC's, Tablets and Phones all running the same basically OS potentially giving the tablet and phone all the abilities/features of a PC run the same programs, open the same documents, same scurity stuff etc etc accross the board, same ability to manage the devices so maybe this will be somthing companies like, that is the what i have gathered anyway, if it is correct i don't know I am not MS, but i would like to see them put apple in back in their box As far as I am concerned all apple do is package old tech in a nice cover and claim it is some new wiz bang device then get it made by kids in a factory in china with, then charge 3 times it's value to suckers On 26 June 2012 13:26, Bill McCarthy <bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au> wrote: > Okay so I read the post on Microsoft forums you kindly linked to, and one of > the responses marked as an answer said "yes the lumia would be upgradable to > win8" > > Really, all that was there was some speculation//wild-a-guessing. Let's jump > forward a couple of month to Feb/March this year when there was a lot of > speculation over the same thing: > http://www.neowin.net/news/some-current-windows-phone-devices-to-get-apollo > > Again neither confirm or deny from Microsoft, but some rumours that it would > upgrade. > > And when I see the Windows Team blog posting showing Windows 8 running on a > currently available Windows Phone, then any speculation that it can't be > done is clearly wrong. > > But I think the key point I'm trying to make here is that the claim people > knew ahead of time it wouldn't be upgraded is clearly false. Clearly a lot > of people thought it would. And for the average consumer, I think they'd > expect the same. If I went and bought a Samsung Galaxy SII, guess what it's > getting updated to ICS tomorrow. If I bought an iphone 4, guess what, you > can update it to iOS 5 (iPhone 4s), and even the latest iOS 6 which is in > beta. > > The only reason people might expect WP nto to update because Microsoft has > begun to build a history of dumping support for existing devices. Win mobile > just three years ago, Zune, Microsoft Kin, now WP7.XX. Just how high do > they rate consumer confidence ? Really, it's no wonder that although WP is > really nice it remains such a small market share (and most likely to plummet > even further over the coming months). > > It's no wonder Apple and Samsung are doing so well ;) > > > > |-----Original Message----- > |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- > |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of .net noobie > |Sent: Tuesday, 26 June 2012 3:59 PM > |To: ozDotNet > |Subject: Re: Windows Phone 8 announced > | > |nov 2011 > |http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/winphone/forum/wp7- > |wpdevices/windows-phone-7-or-wait-for-wp8/9abda28c-5181-4b7f-8f5b- > |d4a46a3408e1?msgId=1cb925ea-4347-4482-add2-1a2f7ef4939a > | > |windows weekly podcast / winsupersite, as i said before > | > |talking to people on twitter > | > |etc, > | > |the net is a big place > | > |I said rumors on blogs... not major review sites > | > |but i don't recall exact sites/pages i was looking at upto and beyond a > year ago > |but this debate has been happing for quite a while online, I was thinking > the > |arguments for not being upgradable sounded more like it > | > | > | > | > |On 26 June 2012 11:38, Bill McCarthy <bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au> > wrote: > |> That wasn't a contest either. I seriously asked you to cite some > |> references as I aren't seeing any. When I google searched the top > |> listed sites at best could say there were big changes coming but none > |> that suggested the latest phones wouldn't upgrade. I don't recall > |> seeing any phone reviews that in their review of the latest WP said > |> there was a concern/rumour it wouldn't be upgradable. > |> > |> |-----Original Message----- > |> |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- > |> |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of dotnet noobie > |> |Sent: Tuesday, 26 June 2012 2:14 PM > |> |To: ozDotNet > |> |Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced > |> | > |> |I mean not a contest about who reads what blog, listens to what > |> |podcast, > |> etc > |> | > |> |I was not talking about the smart phone market > |> | > |> |Sent from my Windows Phone > |> | > |> |________________________________ > |> | > |> |From: mike smith > |> |Sent: 26-Jun-12 10:00 > |> |To: ozDotNet > |> |Subject: Re: Windows Phone 8 announced > |> | > |> | > |> |On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 6:33 PM, .net noobie <dotnetnoo...@gmail.com> > |> |wrote: > |> | > |> | > |> | Well, this is not a compitition > |> | > |> | > |> |Oh, but the marketplace *is* a competition :) > |> | > |> | > |> | > |> | and I not claming to be an expert on it, but I was under the > |> impression > |> |quite a while ago that people would not be able to upgrade the wp7 > |> |devices > |> to > |> |wp8, > |> | I don't even follow it very closely, I really just lisen to > |> |the one > |> podcast i > |> |mentioned before, thats it, but I also googled it and saw people > |> |debating > |> it as far > |> |back as mid to end of 2011 > |> | > |> | I also bet you did not see anywhere from Nokia or MS that you > |> | would > |> be > |> |able to upgrade a wp7 device to wp8 either? > |> | > |> | > |> |I wasn't looking, but Apple, for instance, offer a deal where you get > |> |some > |> form of > |> |recompense when buying an obsoleted ! item within a certain time of a > |> |new release. > |> | > |> | > |> | > |> | If the current devices have enough grunt or not to run a wp8 > |> | OS, I > |> have > |> |no idea, i just said is something I assumed would be the case if MS > |> |wanted > |> to > |> |basically run win8 on a phone... > |> | I not saying they can or cannot, I am saying this was my guess > |> | > |> | > |> | > |> | > |> |Or were they pressured by carriers? They more often support handset > |> |churn > |> than > |> |the SW manufacturers. From Microsoft's perspective, there's nothing > |> |to > |> gain and > |> |everything to lose by doing this. (I exaggerate a bit) > |> | > |> | but i think the min spec for wp7 was a 1ghz cpu? correct? and > |> | i > |> maybe > |> |wrong here but did they even lower the spec a little after/for mango > 7.5? > |> | > |> | Anyway I can understand why people are annoyed, especially if > |> | you > |> just > |> |got a new phone, > |> | I got mine the week they came out and I am not really happy > |> |either, > |> but I > |> |guess I got used to the idea I could not upgrade it already > |> | > |> | > |> | > |> | > |> |I still want to know if Microsoft are releasing a phone that will run > |> |8, > |> and that > |> |they will undertake to do online upgrades for, in the same way Apple > |> |do, > |> and > |> |Android do (for their 'concept' phones, aka Nexus line) Got an > |> |answer for > |> that, > |> |Microsoft dudes? > |> | > |> | > |> | > |> | On 25 June 2012 13:17, mike smith <meski...@gmail.com> wrote: > |> | > |> | > |> | A reasonable position would be if they issued a rebate > |> | for > |> those > |> |that bought WP7 in the last, say 6 months. It might take the bitter > |> |taste > |> away for > |> |them, somewhat. > |> | > |> | Mike > |> | > |> | > |> | On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 2:46 PM, .net noobie > |> |<dotnetnoo...@gmail.com> wrote: > |> | > |> | > |> | I just listen to podcasts like windows weekly, > |> | they > |> been > |> |saying it for > |> | months, blogs etc, but, also were a lot people > |> claimig > |> |that it would > |> | be upgradable > |> | > |> | but I personally did not expect you would be > |> |able to upgrade, becuase > |> | I was thinking the the phone was also going to > |> |try > |> and > |> |use the same > |> | core as win8, so the phone would be different > |> |and current phones most > |> | likely would not have the grunt to really do > |> |it, but > |> i did > |> |expect if > |> | the phone was more like "windows" that they > |> |would be able to still run > |> | the old apps > |> | > |> | but if you google you will see people saying > |> | will > |> not be > |> |upgradable > |> | from mid to end of last year, while others > |> |saying > |> that MS > |> |could not > |> | cut off wp7 people becuase would kill the > |> |phone off > |> | > |> | > |> | > |> | > |> | > |> | -- > |> | Meski > |> | > |> | > |> | > |> | http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv > |> | > |> | "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison > |> | for > |> sex. > |> |Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills > |> | > |> | > |> | > |> | > |> | > |> | > |> |-- > |> |Meski > |> | > |> | > |> | http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv > |> | > |> |"Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, > |> you'll get it, > |> |but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills > |> > |> >
