I know I am ignoring the subject line but … Let me add myself as one more person on the list that likes Windows 8.
I have been using Windows 8 since December last year on a desktop and am perfectly happy with it. I regularly switch use between it and Windows 7 on my work laptop and don’t feel any disjoint in doing that. My eldest daughter is a graphic artist and uses both Windows 7 on a desktop and Windows 8 on a recently acquired non-touch laptop. Neither of us can quite understand what all the fuss is about with the Start button disappearing. The Windows key is your friend, and in fact I now prefer using the Windows key to the Start button and menu in Windows 7 as well. I wonder if there is a way to hide the Start button in Windows 7 <grin>. I remember MS getting grief in the trade press many years ago for having options to Restart/Shutdown Windows on the Start button menu – “Stop by clicking Start – really?” And I find a lot of the discussions today re the missing Start button and the Modern UI in Windows 8 reminiscent of the furore the introduction of the Ribbon bar in Office caused. We seem to have moved on from there, and I suspect we will move on from here as well. I own a HP Touchpad (running Android 4.0.4 now), an iPad 2, a HTC Windows Phone 8X and an Asus Nexus 7. No comment on the Touchpad collecting dust in the corner, love the phone, prefer using the Nexus 7 to the iPad. I may be the oldest person (I turn 60 this year) lurking on this list, and if I can comfortably adapt to devices and changes in all of these platforms, I don’t understand the pain points others are experiencing with Windows 8 – maybe I am just remarkable! Chris From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Jason Roberts Sent: Thursday, 9 May 2013 9:32 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Is Surface really failing? Hi David, well now you know person that likes it :) I have been using since previews, it has a few niggling things but overall I like it. In terms of affordances/discoverability once you know about the corners you're pretty much set. How long have you been using win8 out of interest? Doesn't like the iPad have things like 4 finger swipes, how do users discover those gestures without being told? ________________________________ From: David Richards<mailto:ausdot...@davidsuniverse.com> Sent: 9/05/2013 7:12 AM To: ozDotNet<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> Subject: Re: Is Surface really failing? I have to say, I'm really surprised anyone could ask this. I don't know a single person that likes windows 8. I don't mean they think "yeah its ok but windows 7 is better", I mean they think "hate, loath, detest". It is one of the worst user interfaces I've seen, second only to itunes. When I first tried windows 8, I intentionally made sure I didn't read anything about it. I literally was unable to use it for a full 30 minutes! I could click on enormous, 20 cm buttons to run an app and that was it. I eventually gave up and went to google, only to discover there is a magical, invisible button about 5 pixels wide in the corner. Really!? Who thought that was a good idea? Go to Android or iOS and a child could figure them out in minutes. My two year old was confidently using both in minutes. I have no doubt he would have gotten stuck in windows 8 in seconds. Regardless of your opinion on the style (I personally don't like the style formally known as metro), it is not a UI that a person could figure out just by looking at it. People have to be told how to use it. Consequently, it will always fail in comparison to the others. David "If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards... checkmate!" -Zapp Brannigan, Futurama On 8 May 2013 18:15, Arjang Assadi <arjang.ass...@gmail.com<mailto:arjang.ass...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hello all, It seems there is no shortage of Surface.bashing : http://www.zdnet.com/windows-8-microsofts-new-coke-moment-7000014779/ Are there people really proposing to not to have Metro interface on tablets? Is it really that hard for windows 7 fanatics to click on a tile to see Windows 7 Desktop? Having used Android, IPad and Surface ( in that orders ), Can not imagine why anyone prefer any other tablet to Surface. Is Surface really failing? or is it just the usual trolls cooking up the stats? Anyone has any comments from horses mouth (MS) regarding this? Any news on what is next after Surface from MS? Any rumors for Surface II ? Thank you