That compact keyboard looks pretty good. Although it looks like a replacement for a laptop rather than a separate keyboard. There are no wasted keys and the keys it has seem at least mostly in the right places. Something like that with nice keys would be good. I've yet to find one though. The ones I've seen always try to make them like laptop keys.
David "If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards... checkmate!" -Zapp Brannigan, Futurama On 15 August 2013 13:51, Wallace Turner <wallace.tur...@gmail.com> wrote: > Do not accept that the ergonomic keyboard will make your life easier. I > used one for well over a year before I realised I hated it. its too big, > its inconvenient. when debugging step out is a pain in the neck as I'm used > to using my left hand alone to do this (Shift-11) as my right hand is on > the mouse so i can inspect variables or whatever I need to do when > debugging. > > I'm back on a compact keyboard - works for me. > > http://www.dhgate.com/product/new-dell-mini-1012-series-uk-black-keyboard/143650991.html?utm_source=pla&utm_medium=GMC&utm_campaign=wisshen&utm_term=143650991&f=bm%7c143650991%7c104006-Keyboards-Mice-Input%7cGMC%7cAdwords%7cpla%7cwisshen%7cAU%7c104006007-LaptopReplacementKeyboards%7cc%7c&gclid=CIvSya7F_rgCFcYipQodXjoAkA > > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Corneliu I. Tusnea < > corne...@acorns.com.au> wrote: > >> Hi David, >> >> I'm a big fan of keyboards and I've tested heaps and heaps of them and I >> always go back to the ergonomic ones from Microsoft. >> I know you don't like them but I think they are very very good and once >> you get used you'll never want to go back. >> >> I'm currently using the Microsoft Natural 400 >> http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/p/natural-ergonomic-keyboard-4000 >> >> I have one at home and one at work and they rock. The split angle is >> small enough to allow easy use with one hand in the rare moments that I >> need to use a single hand and keep a hand on the mouse. >> The older ergonomic ones were having a higher angle making them >> impossible to use with one hand. >> I also looked at that new Manta Ray and I think I'll buy one. I like that >> the keypad is separate and I love the long delete key (my previous keyboard >> had that long delete and I enjoyed it. >> >> To make my life easier I always remap most of VS commands that I >> frequently use to use only the left hand with no need to use the right hand. >> - Alt+1 - Build Selected Project >> - Alt+2 - Find References (Resharper) >> - Alt+W - Highlight References >> - Alt+Q - Goto Definition >> and few more so you can keep a hand on the mouse and one on the keyboard >> :) >> >> I think no keyboard shortcut should ever need two hands. >> Whoever came up with the Ctrl+Shift+F12 shortcut and Ctrl+Shift+B? >> Have you tried to press Ctrl+Shift+B with one hand? My hand hurts just >> looking a the keyboard to try to figure out how to press that. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 1:08 PM, mike smith <meski...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:04 PM, David Richards < >>> ausdot...@davidsuniverse.com> wrote: >>> >>>> A bit off topic and a bit on topic. I've been in the market for a good >>>> developer keyboard for a while but never seem to find anything I like. I >>>> was just wondering if others on this list had found a decent keyboard. >>>> >>>> A few qualifying points: >>>> >>>> I don't want a number pad or at least I don't want one on the right of >>>> the keyboard. Not that I have anything against them, I just want my mouse >>>> to be closer. I've tested this using a cheap (and crappy) laptop like >>>> keyboard and there is a noticeable difference in comfort. I can just as >>>> easily by a separate number pad keyboard to position elsewhere. >>>> >>>> >>> Or not at all. If you touchtype, they are almost unused. Funny I >>> didn't realise this, I just picked up my somewhat used KB and held it to >>> reflect light. Right. The numeric KB is still matte, the main KB numbers >>> are shiny with wear. >>> >>> >>>> I would prefer the cursor keys and the other navigation keys to be in a >>>> reasonable location. My "crappy" keyboard as some of these along the >>>> bottom. It also sacrificed the right Control key in favour of a Scroll >>>> Lock key. Who uses scroll lock any more? >>>> >>>> >>> What does it even do? >>> >>> >>>> I don't like those "ergonomic" keyboards that split the keyboard to >>>> be comfortable for two hands. I don't know about the rest of you but I >>>> spend at least as much time with one hand on the mouse and the other on the >>>> keyboard as I do with both hands on the keyboard. So the ergonomic aspects >>>> are actually a hindrance when typing with one hand. >>>> >>>> >>> Disagree. Going back to flat KB's is a major pain now for me. >>> >>> >>>> I don't care about media buttons or any other specific use button. I >>>> never user them. They just make the keyboard bigger. 20% of the keys on >>>> my current keyboard will never be used. >>>> >>>> >>> Agree, and get rid of the effing flock key and all the media shifts on >>> the f keys. >>> >>> >>>> Obviously I want the keys to be comfortable to use 8 hours a day. >>>> >>>> >>> Dude, at least 8. You likely use a KB another 4-8 when you get home. >>> >>> >>>> The recently announce keyboard from microsoft is fairly close to what >>>> I'm looking for: >>>> >>>> >>>> http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/08/microsofts-new-ergonomic-keyboard-is-just-plain-weird-looking/ >>>> >>>> But it's ergonomic style is a bit of a negative. >>>> >>>> >>> Yes, and I'm going to call in at officeworks to buy one on the way home. >>> Thank you! >>> >>> Re ergonomic. Try it for a while, you'll learn to love leaning your >>> wrists on something. And likely hate the normal ones. I use one at home >>> on the iMac - for such an ergonomic company Apple has awful keyboards and >>> mice. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Meski >>> >>> http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv >>> >>> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, >>> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills >>> >> >> >
