I was living in Riverstone for a while when it was scheduled to be one of the 
first suburbs in NSW to see the practical benefits of the NBN roll-out after 
the local ALP puppet Michelle Rowland used the NBN as a key differentiator in 
her campaign.  That was 2007.

Luckily my TPG ASDL2 connection was serviceable enough (~8-10Mbps download is 
more than enough to be productive) so I wasn’t left hanging anyway, but last 
time I checked what was happening out there they were launching a “Riverstone 
digital hub” at the end of 2012 in Riverstone Library, ie one single site with 
anything remotely approaching the promises of the NBN.

That’s all they’ve produced. Not a single site, commercial or residential, 
hooked up. 6 years for a  supposed pioneer site to produce effectively zip. I 
can’t pretend to understand a fraction of the technical or financial complexity 
of an infrastructure rollout on anywhere near that scale, but I can see when 
we’re clearly being taken for a ride.

When people would rather vote for a dipshit like this than your own candidate 
you know you’re REALLY doing something wrong:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrQPXXHUilU

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of mike smith
Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 2:55 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] NBN revisited

Looking at the rollout, it's scheduled to be available for me by end of year.  
Which is somewhat unfair, being I've already got vdsl2.

On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:51 PM, GregAtGregLowDotCom 
<g...@greglow.com<mailto:g...@greglow.com>> wrote:
Like most people, I’d love to have FTTH.

However, I have zero confidence in the current government’s ability to deliver 
it in a reasonable timeframe. Wishing for it won’t make it happen.

Given a choice between paying $3K-$5k to connect our house to a local node in 
2016, and a dream of a service that’s unlikely to appear before I retire in 
about 10 years’ time, there really is no serious choice to be made. I’d pay the 
$3k-$5k in a heartbeat.

Regards,

Greg

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From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>] On 
Behalf Of David Richards
Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 2:38 PM

To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] NBN revisited

Apart from the use of "impacted", a nice article.

For some reason, this whole argument reminds me of the republic referendum some 
years back.  I knew a number of people who didn't like the idea of a politician 
appointed president and thought voting "No" meant "the people" would vote for 
the president.

The fact is, the vast majority of people who vote on such things do so without 
all the facts.  Certainly not enough to be responsible for making a decision.

People on this list will tend to be looking at it from a technical point of 
view.  I doubt any of this has any meaning to the population in general.

If the NBN was available in my area, I'd get it.  For cable, my only option now 
is Optus which is what I have.  Telstra told me I could get ADSL with a 
fraction of the data and for a lot more money.  If only I had a choice...

David

"If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes
 will fall like a house of cards... checkmate!"
 -Zapp Brannigan, Futurama

On 4 September 2013 13:53, Bill McCarthy 
<bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au<mailto:bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au>> wrote:

Here’s a good read from today :
http://www.theage.com.au/digital-life/computers/blogs/gadgets-on-the-go/turnbulls-fragmented-nbn-dooms-australia-to-repeat-the-mistakes-of-the-past-20130904-2t4cr.html



Hopefully that will help some folks see past the one tree and start looking at 
the forest.




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