Wow full refund after 11 months??? You can all say what you want but as I have always preached, the macbook is the best laptop for most users including devs.
On Friday, 16 December 2016, Stephen Price <step...@lythixdesigns.com> wrote: > I saw the mentions but figured people would be referring to the newer (and > better) models of the Spectre x360. > > > My daughter is using my old Spectre x360 and she loves it. I did buy a pen > for it, as my daughter is doing an Illustrator/graphic design degree but > the thing didn't work. My attempts to get their support to tell me if I had > a faulty pen, or just the wrong pen for the laptop resulted in a fail. I > got emails but no one called me. Just got too busy to spend an hour on the > phone following it up. So from a support perspective I wasn't that > impressed with HP. > > She does love the laptop though. Great battery life and I see her using it > constantly. > > > I had some issues with a Dell order (mainly with Startrack not delivering, > and then damaging the package - fortunately it wasn't the XPS 13, it was > just a charger and they finally got it to me after almost a month...) > > But the thing with Dell was they didn't ignore me. After purchase support > is important, so I always buy the extra warranty. Nothing worse than it > dying a month after the warranty and its cheaper to buy a whole new laptop > than repair it. > > > I also have a new 2016 MacBook Pro 15". Quite happy with it... It's my > main take everywhere laptop, mainly as I want to get more familiar with the > Mac OS. Still use windows on it via BootCamp accessed via Parallels vm. > > > I returned my Surface Book after 11 months, Full refund. One replaced > device (battery life was 3 hours, it was using battery as fast as it could) > and the replacement was way better but the camera was failing. It often > would not sleep while in bag (or wake up and battery would be used up). The > XPS in comparison can be in my bag for a week and still be at 80% battery > when I turned it back on. > > I wasn't happy, I wanted the Surface Book to be great. When it worked it > was. I was hoping for USB-C on the refresh version but they just made it > heavier (slightly more battery plus stop it being so top heavy) and > slightly better gfx. > > > There is no perfect laptop. You have to pick the one that has the > strengths that align with how you want to use it. Bit like finding a > woman... (haha very non PC comment, sorry! Kidding!) > > > good luck! > > Stephen > ------------------------------ > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com');> < > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com');>> on > behalf of DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','adotnetd...@gmail.com');>> > *Sent:* Friday, 16 December 2016 9:21:20 AM > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: [OT] HP Spectre x360 thoughts > > I recall Stephen Price had a Spectre x360. Maybe wait for him to join in > this conversation with his thoughts. > > On Friday, 16 December 2016, Tom P <tompbi...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tompbi...@gmail.com');>> wrote: > >> Not a requirement >> >> On Friday, 16 December 2016, mike smith <meski...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> It's a touch-screen, is that a feature you're looking for? >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 7:11 AM, Tom P <tompbi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I'll mostly be using it at my desk but I guess I'd like the option to >>>> travel with it so I wouldn't go for anything larger than a 15". RAM I >>>> thought 8GB would be enough but everyone keeps telling me 16GB is the way >>>> to go, SSD for speed obviously, 512GB storage would be enough unless 1TB is >>>> not much more expensive, screen res as high as possible given my budget, >>>> Windows 10, onsite service 3 or 4 years unless there is a higher offering. >>>> In the past I've had problems after 3 years right after not renewing the >>>> warranty. Not sure about driving 4K screens, I probably wouldn't but again >>>> if it does then I wouldn't complain. Budget is $3000 give or take $100 or >>>> $200 since it's a lot of money already anyway. >>>> >>>> Sorry I speak like a user :-) >>>> >>>> >>>> On 15 December 2016 at 21:51, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> First thing, given there are a huge number of laptops out there, are >>>>> what are your requirements/constraints/use cases… >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> a) What are the minimums you think you need (storage, RAM, >>>>> battery life, screen res) >>>>> >>>>> b) What is your budget (or any other constraint – OS etc.) >>>>> >>>>> c) Is this going to be mostly portable, working in customer >>>>> offices, cafes, planes etc), or mostly sit on your desk. Do you want to >>>>> drive 4K screens etc. off it on your desk >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Given that this is going to be your primary work machine, I guess it’s >>>>> safe to assume you need either (a) maximum reliability or (b) onsite >>>>> service – no “return to base and wait a week” type offerings. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sorry I speak like an architect. I guess I’ve been doing that for too >>>>> long now. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-bounces@ozdot >>>>> net.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom P >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 15 December 2016 8:40 AM >>>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> >>>>> *Subject:* [OT] HP Spectre x360 thoughts >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Wow thanks for the comprehensive email Tony. During my research I >>>>> actually did read about horror stories like yours where people ended up >>>>> sending machines back several times. It's really disappointing when you're >>>>> spending so much money. I know several people who just refuse to deal with >>>>> Dell now after having many issues with them. I'll keep looking... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, 14 December 2016, Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Tom, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have been reviewing laptops lately for value for money and decided >>>>> the battery life on the x360 sucked. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Most of the laptops in the $3000 range are dual core as well. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If you're after a 2in1 and dual core is fine you could consider Lenovo >>>>> thinkpad x1 yoga, or the Lenovo yoga 910. Lenovo yoga 910 is consumer and >>>>> had 7th gen Intel chip but no pen capability. Thinkpad x1 yoga has pen but >>>>> different port configuration. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Check ports on all laptops you consider. Thunderbolt ports are best if >>>>> you can get them. Usbc is second best (you can run multiple external >>>>> monitors + Ethernet cable via those ports) But you will also need adapters >>>>> to fit. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The best value I ended up coming up with was a Dell Xps 15. But I have >>>>> had major issues. They have now replaced my motherboard 3 times due to >>>>> crashes, screen flickering and thunderbolt port failures. Tomorrow they >>>>> will replace my motherboard for the fourth time. Not good enough. If it >>>>> fails this time, I'm getting a refund. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> My advice is look for discount codes as well. My son has a student >>>>> account giving him access to discounts on hp (limited selection up to >>>>> 40%), >>>>> Dell (15%) and Microsoft (15%). Lenovo had up to 20% recently but have >>>>> removed that deal. Lenovo often have other deals. Apple 10% through a >>>>> student discount. Auto clubs, like racv, also have discounts. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If my laptop fails again and I have to buy another laptop, I think I >>>>> might get a Lenovo P50, but they're expensive and not as sexy,but I can >>>>> get >>>>> a xeon chip or high end quad core, go up to 64gb ram, and put a second >>>>> nvme >>>>> pcie ssd of I like. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The other laptops I considered were surface book. Didn't like the lack >>>>> of thunderbolt. Apple Macbook pro, which you can install windows natively >>>>> on. It's got an awesome configuration but bad battery life, and that's >>>>> reduced further by windows. Asus Zenbook pro 15 but couldn't find a price >>>>> for the right configuration I want (I only want 1920x1080 as I want more >>>>> battery life) >>>>> >>>>> Hp omen - lacks extensibility. Dell precision 7510 far too expensive >>>>> in Australia. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hope this helps! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Tony >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 14 Dec 2016 5:34 PM, "Tom P" <tompbi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Folks, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'm thinking of buying the HP Spectre x360 13 inch with high specs >>>>> (16gb ram, 512 ssd, i7) which ends up costing about $3100 with the >>>>> warranty. Have any devs here had bad experiences with this machine or >>>>> recommend a better alternative for the price? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Meski >>> >>> http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv >>> >>> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, >>> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills >>> >> >> >> -- >> Thanks >> Tom >> >>
