On a recent project where after 8 months I looked at the web
app that 5 people had created and realized I could have created a WinForm app
by myself in a week, and with s better UI. Agreed it’s an apples and oranges
comparison but that’s just ridiculous for us as an industry to have ended up at
that point where we think that’s acceptable.
Regards,
Greg
Dr Greg Low1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676
4913 faxSQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 12:39 PM +1100, "Nathan Schultz" <milish...@gmail.com>
wrote:
My company uses OutSystems for web-development. It isn't cheap - but it's very
fast to develop, good quality and effective.
On 21 November 2017 at 07:34, Greg Low <g...@greglow.com> wrote:
I look at how far we’ve come in the last twenty-plus years and in terms of
application development productivity, you’d have to wonder what we’ve all been
smoking.
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Tuesday, 21 November 2017 9:17 AM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: Creating a browser-based product
After the cluster fail that has been Javascript and Silverlight...
I am NOT optimistic that anything will change in a positive way real soon.
If you step way back and look at the last 25 years of the web, it's clear that
the web browser should never have been used to run apps.
First we had html in the dumb browser, which was only good for looking at cats
and porn.
Then someone decided to spice the browser experience up by knocking-up a script
language without any proper research, design, conventions or consideration of
the future.
Then someone finally decided it was wise to pull the styling out of the markup
to give us css.
Then they made valiant attempts to run "real" apps inside the browser with Java
applets, Flash and Silverlight. They all died for various reasons.
Then we went back to using html, css and that stupid scripting language in an
attempt to write useful apps. The browser, the rendering, the layout and the
language all don't interoperate properly and there are no standards for
developers to follow. This results in every bored academic and hobbyist writing
their own framework.
And here we are well into the 21st century with no robust way of creating an
app in a web browser.
GK
