Sue, just had to reply to your comments!
I too have reservations about the positioning in the hypnobirthing videos -
awful and tell the women not to be in them, fortunately we have a great
australian video of a woman in better positions and I encourage all the
usual favourable positions for birth, many of the women I have taught labour
and birth in all fours or or similar still using the hypnobirthing
techniques.  As for longer labours - hard to say, my experience is not so
and certainly the testamonials support that being totally relaxed increases
endorphins and the flow of all other necessary hormones, often resulting in
shorter labours.

  I can only quickly tell the story of a yoga teacher friend of mine who had
not done hypnobirthing but was incredibly relaxed and flexible and positive.
We thought she'd have the easiest quickest labour!  Not so, after 20 hours
of very active labour, birth ball, walking, going up steps etc. etc. etc.
she was exhausted and the baby was in a very difficult position and starting
to get distressed, still only 5 cms. dilated.  I came in and we were
transferred up to delivery suite with talk of augmentation, maybe cesarian.
I took her through a quick and simple relaxation/hypnosis and breath work
with some visualisation and she suddenly "let go" and surrendered her body
to birth.  In less than an hour she was fully dilated and had birthed a baby
(brow presentation).  She said that she had "tried" so hard to birth her
baby and realized that surrendering was what she needed to do.  She has now
trained in hypnobirthing and is due any moment with her second baby.
Perhaps sometimes we "try" too hard to birth and need to "allow" it to
unfold more.
Julia
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From: Sue Cookson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Hypnobirthing


> Hi,
> We have a hypnobirthing practitioner in our area, who had her first baby a
> couple of years ago. She had a 3 day labour to the birth of a little baby
> girl - popping up to the local hospital for the last hour. She was 5-6 cms
> about 18hours before baby came.
>
> I have a few comments tho - this women basically laboured on her bed,
> concentrating/hypnobirthing with each contraction. I would have to wonder
if
> this style of labour, being 'not active' is partly why she had such a long
> labour. And by taking herself away from feeling the pain, did she not also
> lengthen her labour ? By that I mean that when labour gets tough and
feisty,
> most women want to get on with it and birth their babies.
>
> This woman had come to my birth group and talked to us about hypnobirthing
> ans shown us an American video of such - women always on the bed, mostly
on
> their back or side.
>
> I guess I am not too happy if the women I deal with wish to divert their
> minds from the tough work of labour, but I can acknowledge that maybe
we've
> come such a full circle to do with scaring women totally about the pain of
> labour,  that we have a new generation of women who feel they need to
escape
> the pain of birth. And as many have said, rather hypnobirthing than an
> epidural or aother chemical pain relief.
>
> I do not mean to insult or judge, but I have experienced a pain free
labour
> which was a total gift - the two after that were as painful as expected.
>
> Sue Cookson
>
>
>
>
> > I've been following the discussion about hypnobirthing with interest as
> > this is a topic I wrote about in one of my Diary entries back in
September.
> > I won't go into my reservations here, but you can read what I have said
here:
> >
> > http://www.birthinternational.com/diary/index.html
> >
> > Look for the entry on September 17 (click on the calendar date)
> >
> > I expect that this will fuel the discussion a bit more....
> >
> > Andrea
> >
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> >
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> >
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