Fantastic story Andrea. As I am just starting in home birth I
love hearing these variations from hospital stuff. 
Cheers
Judy
PS, bet she was pleased after the fact that you had not
immediately jumped to ring an ambulance. 


--- Andrea Quanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Sometimes at home the women get just as despondent but the
> difference  
> is that no one is going to walk through the door and under
> mine me  
> and 'save' her.
> Last week I was with a women who was birthing at home after
> three  
> very different and for a variety of reasons not so great
> labours..  
> She had done a hypno birthing course and used the tools
> beautifully   
> and was so relaxed that I was not convinced that she was
> labouring  
> despite her telling me that the contractions were getting
> stronger  
> they were irregular and short.. She asked me to do a VE which
> showed  
> her Cx to be 75% effaced but 2 cm and quite tight. This really
>  
> annoyed her and when I suggested she rest she was opposed to
> this and  
> so I suggested the alternative was to  get up and get active
> and send  
> her uterus the message that she wanted it to get into gear
> rather  
> than the message that it was obviously getting from all her  
> relaxation tapes, breathing etc.
> Almost immediately she started rocking and rotating her hips
> quite  
> dramatically during contractions, she was in the kitchen with
> the  
> lights on as opposed to being in the bedroom in the dark where
> she  
> had been before.  The response was dramatic and the
> contractions  
> became co ordinated and strong and within 10 min she asked her
>  
> partner to run the bath.  She got in there and then became
> passive  
> again lying on her back and struggling with quite strong  
> contractions.  It was quite funny actually as after about half
> an  
> hour she opened one eye and told me I needed to call an
> ambulance as  
> she couldn't do this any more and needed to go to the
> hospital. ( For  
> those of you who haven;t been at a home birth women at home
> often ask  
> to go to the hospital in exactly the same way as women in
> hospital  
> often ask to go home).  She made no move to get out of the
> bath and  
> so at first I just ignored her but she became more insistent
> with  
> each contraction so eventually I pointed out to her that she
> couldn't  
> go anywhere while she remained lying in the bath and that if
> she  
> wanted to go to the hospital she needed to get out of the bath
> and  
> into the car as ambulances were for emergencies and this was
> not an  
> emergency. She did stand up then and get out of the bath,
> leaned  
> against me for two contractions as I helped her dry herself
> and then  
> I asked her did she want to have the baby in the bedroom or in
> front  
> of the fire in the lounge. She just looked at me and said the
> lounge.  
> So we moved there, she leaned over the ball and had the baby.
> All  
> this on 90 min since the VE.
> 
> Andrea Quanchi
> 
> On 07/10/2006, at 12:02 AM, Lisa Barrett wrote:
> 
> > Hi Sue,
> >
> > Thanks for sharing the information.  Your right it is almost
>  
> > impossible to avoid active intervention when birthing in the
> system  
> > even with great midwives like yourself supporting.  Part of
> the  
> > problem appears to be the lack of belief that waiting and
> doing  
> > nothing is going to work.  Some multips don't have full on
> labour  
> > until transition.  It is possible that when the head sits
> firmly on  
> > the cervix the contractions will pick up. I have not ever
> had to  
> > wait 12/15 mins from birth of a head to birth of a body.
> > Physiology tells us that the uterus clamps down immediately
> after  
> > birth.  I don't think you'd wait another 12/15 mins for the
> uterus  
> > to contract after the birth and that's if you don't do an
> active  
> > third stage.
> >
> > It is not so hard to do other things when sytno drip isn't
> an  
> > option and you have no-one but yourself and the woman to
> trust in  
> > ( no idiot specialist in complications when your the
> specialist in  
> > the normal I mean).
> > I think I have the easy job when it comes to midwifery
> because I  
> > know I'm the specialist in normal and I don't answer to
> anyone on  
> > that score.  Politics with birthing as far out of the system
> as I  
> > do is another thing altogether but in the birth space with
> women it  
> > isn't an issue.  I chose to work like this because it's less
>   
> > waring than having to say F**k off to drs all the time.
> >
> > Lisa Barrett
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 



                
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