Naomi
That was one of the big issues for us too! Hence the debate. Women are
supposed to be informed antenatally. I know that they are being taken but
women are seldom asked and seldom know. How dreadful!
Shelly
----- Original Message -----
From: "Naomi Wilkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] cord blood gases
Thanks everyone for your responses so far re cord blood gases. It will
all be so helpful when we 'go into battle'.
Shelly, you commented about letting the parents make the decision. This
is one of our biggest areas of concern, as the medicos have made no
mention of how informed consent will be obtained, and 'asking at the
time', which was one response to this, is so very inappropriate. I truly
despair at the interpretation of 'informed consent' that I regularly see
at my place of work. Your references on this will be so useful.
Naomi
Naomi
In England we have seen in increase in 'fear' of litigation. Obstetrics in
this country has always taken a huge chunk of the litigation for most
hospitals . We now have in our country CNST (clinical neglegence scheme
for trusts). Trusts are what groups of health care organisations are
called. CNST is an insurance that Trusts pay into so that litigation
claims can be paid when won. The CNST set out standards for trusts and
depending on how well you achieve the standards determines the insurance
premiums, which you can imagine are huge figures. The trouble is that CNST
requirements for the standards to be met are not always sensible or in the
best interests of women. Some standards like (cord blood sampling for ph
post birth) are simply taken to record results in the notes which may
protect against litigation in the future. I have a million issues with
this practice! We had a university supervised professional debate about
this issue in the Trust where I worked when it first became an issue. The
midwives against and the Obs. for. We won the debate but the CNST
requirements meant that we could save the Trust loads of money if we did
them so they were introduced. Some of us still refused to do them. I would
only do them if it was explained in full to the mother and father and they
agreed. I gave it to them warts and all (like the obs openly admit that it
is just to defend them in cases of litigation.). I did not make the
decision the parents did. Needless to say when you tell them how
inaccurate the results are and that neither they nor the baby will benfit
from the results. Many choose not to have it done.
I will search out my references and post them seperately. Our debate was
published in a midwifery mag here!
Shelly
Midwife
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To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 9:07 AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] cord blood gases
Hi all,
Just wondering how common it is for cord blood gases to be done in
maternity units. I work in a small metro. hospital with a very busy
maternity unit and our medical 'powers that be' are pushing for them to
be done at every birth. Something we, the midwives, are very, very
reluctant to do.
I was also wondering if anyone knows of any research that may help us to
prevent this from becoming a routine thing.
Thanks
Naomi.
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