Saying any technology is dead if plain foolish imo.
Software platforms don't die, they just become less popular. Hell, even when the platform vendor stops supporting it, the platforms continue to be in use. HTML5 looks like another Java to me. Sure it will run on many different browser/OS platforms. However the HTML5 standards committees and the politics involved in keeping everyone happy from a API perspective will mean that HTML5 will evolve extremely slowly. Seriously, does anyone really believe that Google, Microsoft, Apple et al are actually going to agree on a common HTML5 standard? Really? What's more likely is that Microsoft puts out an IE-only MSHTML5 (basic HTML5 + MS "extensions"), Google does the same with a GHTML5 for Chrome and Apple/Mozilla get left trying to comply with everyone else. And in terms of the future of Silverlight/WPF. Regardless of the cultural/political issues in Microsoft, they are too far down the XAML/Blend/VS 2010 path now to back away from it. And even if they dropped WPF/Silverlight tomorrow, development on these platforms would continue. Look at the Windows Forms space. There is still heaps of development and use of that platform even though WPF has been around for 5 years now. Too many companies & people have invested into WPF/Silverlight to drop it. Maybe in 5-10 years when the dev world has got ROI from WPF/Silverlight, then MS might be able to entice them over to HTML5/whatever. Cheers Paul From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2010 11:18 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Interesting article re: WPF/Silverlight/HTML5 on riagenic I'd also like to raise some points RE HTML5 and WPF/SL etc. Back in the 1890's the head of the US patent office declared he was going to close the office because he thought that there was nothing left to invent... rather short sighted given hindsight... My point is that HTML5 will bring to the masses through standardisation the features that consumers have come to demand thanks to agile plugins like SL and Flash. To quote the SL team blog post that flamed the debate - SL/Flash trailblaze and HTML5 will then pave the road. These features are already out there and pervasive (demanded) - so why not standardise and give them the ultimate reach they deserve! Bravo - it's a really good idea, and consumers win. The stuff that was around years ago will now be available through standards. But there is new stuff now... that stuff has been done - tech moves on. Where consumers *also* win is that SL and Flash are all about ideas and tech that doesn't/didn't exist yet + getting it to market fast. It's a playground for great ideas. 3D video. Surround sound, adaptive smooth streaming (for the SL = video zealots). Multitouch, multi screen, multi bloody everything. Rapid development (through Des/Dev workflows) + awesome tooling. Consumers like apps too remember. They would much rather read their EPG in an app than have a link to a web page on their desktop. And what about other ideas that don't really exist yet. To say that WPF is dead and/or dying - well I say to you - there is more to the world of UX and consumerism than just the browser/current thinking. I think that WPF is _still_ ahead of its time. Tech/devices are moving wayyyyy too fast for HTML5 spec to keep up with (what about this cheap new device? http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/13/microsoft-principal-researcher-bill-b uxton-surface-will-be-in-h/)... I think the HTML5 vs the world debate is forgetting about the consumer app/hi-tech/new shiny device market - it will/(*is*) be hooooooge! And we need to keep the consumers happy (which means being nimble!). HTML5 is great, bringing what we demand to spec. Yaay for Vimeo working on my iPhone! Plugins are great bringing us the latest tech quickly. And... as new screens are added (Surface, phones etc)... then you can be sure i'll be betting the farm on ripping out apps quickly on tech like WPF... Cheap Surfaces, every shop... WPF = killer. My 2 cents :) On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Tatham Oddie <[email protected]> wrote: Even as the web standards zealot in the corner, I wouldn't agree with many of Scott's points. Jordan Knight and I just discussed the relationship between HTML5 and Silverlight across two episodes of Frankly Speaking: http://www.noisetosignal.com.au/franklyspeaking/?p=256 http://www.noisetosignal.com.au/franklyspeaking/?p=260 -- Tatham Oddie au mob: +61 414 275 989, us cell: +1 213 280 9140, skype: tathamoddie If you're printing this email, you're doing it wrong. This is a computer, not a typewriter. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, 14 September 2010 6:33 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Interesting article re: WPF/Silverlight/HTML5 on riagenic Via CodeProject 'Daily News' (14/09/2010) - http://www.riagenic.com/archives/363 Dr. Dan Lazner, PhD | Software Architect/Engineer/Developer _______________________________________________ ozsilverlight mailing list [email protected] http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
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