I believe p2p goes well beyond the mere sharing of data, whether it is free or not. p2p, in my thinking, has more to do with centralized control vs. distributed control. As has been said since the beginning of the internet, it is an end-to-end issue.
I would also say that p2p is more about loosely coupled systems with a more or less flexible interface than the more rigidly designed client-server (and database centric) applications. I don't see how a philosophical discussion about the freedom on information affects the design. On the other hand what people want to do with the data and how they transact it definitely does. And while everyone is putting in their 2cents I will go on record as saying 'the freedom of information' is a religious issue. You can debate it all day but the bottom line is you can no more prove information wants to be free than you can prove the existence of God. Peace, Chaz. Peter Triantafillou wrote: > The discussion of whether information should be free IS very important > even for technical reasons. I feel that people that are "for the > freeness of information" are more likely to design very different > algorithms and systems than the rest. In fact, I think p2p is very much > about all of this ....sharing, pooling together of resources, .... > leading to communities which enjoy *and depend on* sharing of > information and computation/communication ... > > So it would be a mistake to stop this discussion or take it off the > group, especially now that the group is alive and kicking... > > Peter > > > Chaz. wrote: >> Lucas Gonze wrote: >> >>> Chaz. wrote: >>> >>>> I would think this topic is best left off the group and taken to a >>>> private venue. But that is my position... >>>> >>> I'm interested in the cliche where someone says that they aren't one of >>> those who believe that "...", where "..." is some variation of the >>> "information wants to be free" hook. For example, here: >>> >>> "the problem with the p2p crowd is that most are either too >>> radical...music should be free" >>> http://lists.zooko.com/pipermail/p2p-hackers/2006-October/000366.html >>> >>> Since this is a nexus for the p2p crowd, it struck me that we could >>> explore the strawman without having to go anywhere. I'm not looking for >>> opinions to confront, disprove, or argue with, by the way. I'm looking >>> to explore the truth of the famous strawman. >>> >>> That's why this conversation is the opposite of off-topic. It is very >>> specific to the group. >>> >>> -Lucas >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> p2p-hackers mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.zooko.com/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers >>> >>> >> >> It does seem that talking about this is more about talking about the p2p >> people, and there aren't any universals. On the other hand I always took >> this email group to be more about trading technical issues. But once >> again that is just my wishes.... >> >> Chaz. >> _______________________________________________ >> p2p-hackers mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.zooko.com/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers >> >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > p2p-hackers mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.zooko.com/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers _______________________________________________ p2p-hackers mailing list [email protected] http://lists.zooko.com/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers
