Lucas Gonze wrote:
But here you are again, talking about "people that are for..." as a
third party, rather than about yourself as a person who believes that
music must be free.
your implied conjecture that I am a person who feels that music should
be free is baseless and thus useless. I do not feel like preaching, so I
will stop this thread.
My original point (which got me involved in this line) is that P2P is
against "tight control" and central ownership (that's why Google was
mentioned as as example of a "client-server" approach and alluded to
dangers of a few entities "owning/controlling the world's data"). And
that it is important to have systems without central control even if the
centralized approaches are faster ...
And, after seeing a few emails in this thread, I would add: even if the
centralized systems can make more money!
Peter
I have yet to see a single instance here of this mythical person.
If you are a person who believes that music must cost nothing, now is
the time to raise your hand.
-Lucas
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Peter Triantafillou wrote:
The discussion of whether information should be free IS very
important even for technical reasons. I feel that people that are
"for the freeness of information" are more likely to design very
different algorithms and systems than the rest. In fact, I think p2p
is very much about all of this ....sharing, pooling together of
resources, .... leading to communities which enjoy *and depend on*
sharing of information and computation/communication ...
So it would be a mistake to stop this discussion or take it off the
group, especially now that the group is alive and kicking...
Peter
Chaz. wrote:
Lucas Gonze wrote:
Chaz. wrote:
I would think this topic is best left off the group and taken to a
private venue. But that is my position...
I'm interested in the cliche where someone says that they aren't
one of
those who believe that "...", where "..." is some variation of the
"information wants to be free" hook. For example, here:
"the problem with the p2p crowd is that most are either too
radical...music should be free"
http://lists.zooko.com/pipermail/p2p-hackers/2006-October/000366.html
Since this is a nexus for the p2p crowd, it struck me that we could
explore the strawman without having to go anywhere. I'm not
looking for
opinions to confront, disprove, or argue with, by the way. I'm
looking
to explore the truth of the famous strawman.
That's why this conversation is the opposite of off-topic. It is very
specific to the group.
-Lucas
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It does seem that talking about this is more about talking about the
p2p
people, and there aren't any universals. On the other hand I always
took
this email group to be more about trading technical issues. But once
again that is just my wishes....
Chaz.
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