No p2p software will help Egypt or any other country from this style of internet shutdown. P2p Firmware and some hacked routers is the only feasible solution. However this requires a certain amount of technical skill that isn't massively available. Enjoy
Sent from Egypt On Feb 2, 2011, at 10:38 AM, Henry Sinnreich <he...@sinnreich.net> wrote: > Actually, there are some brand-specific implementations, such as here: > > http://androidcommunity.com/aussie-develops-software-that-connects-phone-dir > ectly-without-a-mobile-carrier-20110201/ > > http://www.mobiclue.com/symella-p2p-client-mobile.html > > http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/free+p2p+software+nokia+mobile/ > > As mentioned, there is a need for standards across all mobile device brands. > >>> Are you sure these standard organizations are your friend? > > I am not sure :-) > > Though to give due credit, the emerging RTC-Web work in the IETF and W3C to > bring such as VoIP to the browser may be a very good start for the > application layer. This is a most credible effort IMO led so far by Web > people. Let's hope it stays that way. > > Henry > > > > On 2/2/11 12:39 AM, "Michael Blizek" > <mic...@michaelblizek.twilightparadox.com> wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> On 14:32 Tue 01 Feb , Henry Sinnreich wrote: >>> These are useful thoughts at the p2p and application levels. >>> There is more to it however: >>> >>> * Application level - as below, possibly >>> * P2P layer - as below, possibly >>> * UDP/IP/Data Link/Physical - is missing and here is what may work: >>> >>> All users to have at least their cell phones equipped with a global standard >>> compliant p2p UA and all 5 + p2p layers of the IP protocol stack. Even if >>> all the network infrastructure fails due to "main made" :-) or natural >>> disasters, users within near wireless range could still communicate as long >>> as their battery will last. If lucky, some of the peers may even have >>> Internet connectivity, thus serving as gateway for other users, albeit with >>> some congestion. >>> >>> The key is all mobile phones and other devices to communicate in a global >>> standards compliant way. This would require all mobile phone and other >>> device manufacturer to include such a global standard compliant capability. >>> To specify the standard, at least the IEEE, IETF and W3C would need to >>> cooperate for consistency across all the 6 layers, considering p2p as a >>> (sub) layer as well. >> >> Something similar might not be that far away ;-) . But some details might >> still turn out to be different than you think: >> - Cell phones are constantly moving, which makes it harder to find routes >> than >> if you use fixed routers. Batteries will not last even a day. If you have >> the electricity to constantly recharge, you will likely also have the >> electricity for fixed routers... >> - Building meshes based on top of IP is IMHO a big mistake. Even if you would >> be able to implement what you want, it would be slow and unstable. >> - You may want to prefer using this network, even if the cell phone network >> is >> available. >> - Such a network has a wide variety of uses, not just for mobile phones. >> >>> Last but not least, to overcome the pushback from many parties who may not >>> like it. >> >> There are many phones where you can build your own firmware images. If there >> are fixes routers for forwarding the traffic, this should be enough to make >> such an interface useful. If it is useful, manufactorers will either include >> it >> or be obsoleted. >> >>> The most promising approach would be to start such a project in academic >>> and/or other R&D organizations and make it publicly available, as has >>> happened for the early Internet. >>> >>> There are some IEEE papers on this topic, but accessible only for pay :-( >> >> Are you sure these standard organisations are your friend? >> >> -Michi > > > _______________________________________________ > p2p-hackers mailing list > p2p-hackers@lists.zooko.com > http://lists.zooko.com/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers _______________________________________________ p2p-hackers mailing list p2p-hackers@lists.zooko.com http://lists.zooko.com/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers
