wmn over wpan?
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...leverage iBeacon?

(random thoughts)


On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 2:45 AM, grarpamp <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 5:09 AM, danimoth <[email protected]> wrote:
> > A problem which could rise is the 'incentive' for peers to continuosly
> > providing bandwidth and disk space to store messages. I'm a simple dude,
> > with a mailflow of ~5 email per day. Why I should work for you, with
> > your ~10000 mail per day for all your mailing list?
>
> I think this is one of many design choices to be made.
>
> Extra bandwidth is hard to avoid, unless the topology is
> point(sender)-to-point(recipient). Yet with that, there is no effort made
> to hide who is physically talking to who. We want to try to defeat this
> type of analysis, so we can't be simply point-to-point.
>  ie: bittorrent and today's email are point-to-point, no multihop.
>
> Next is storage (mix) vs. latency (tunnels). This seems less clear to
> me when up against analysis. Filling circuits (tunnels) with chaff
> seems interesting. And with deliverey directly to your recipient over
> some tunnel circuit, you don't have to build in complex message redundancy
> protocols (more storage float outstanding) to ensure your message 100%
> gets there when 90% of the nodes go offline taking your stored message
> with them. You also get direct realtime delivery confirmation too.
>
> > Somewhere on this list (or p2p-hackers?) there was a post of mine,
> > regardings an economic incentive between peers, which could be a
> > solution, but as always technical problems arose, like pricing the
> > services and a fair exchange between peers.
>
> The question arises, how does one provide free anonymous transport
> to those anons who simply can't pay because they are anon? How
> do you 'get users' when the mentality is 'for free'? Bittorrent/Tor are
> free and seem to work ok. Though it's also probably not unreasonable
> to suggest (and harder to enforce) that you get 1:1 what resources you
> donate to it. ie: I need to push 1GiB this month, so I need to provision at
> minimum 1+Nx1GiB to do that... 1 for me, Nx1 for the net due to my use
> (where N is some impact ratio inherent in the design of the net, such
> as number hops.)
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