Indeed! but (as you said) most people use their Ipods with a computer  
of some description using Windows or a Mac.


On 11/09/2008, at 9:26 AM, Jonathan Mosen wrote:

> If this is the case, then the talking nano is seriously flawed,  
> since you
> must connect a computer to it to get the speech recordings of your  
> tracks
> and albums.
>
> Jonathan
>
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> On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:21 a.m.
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible
>
> I could be wrong here but there are systems out there which will load
> tracks onto an Ipod (though I grant you the speech functionality
> probably wouldn't work <smile>) I'm sure I've read about a couple of
> Panasonic systems which are now available, they have some sort of
> arrangement whereby the user can copy a whole CD or tracks of same to
> an Ipod?
>
>
> On 11/09/2008, at 7:57 AM, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
>
>> Lauren this is true, but do keep in mind that without a PC or mac,
>> the nano
>> is useless anyway since you need to load music onto it.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
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>> On Behalf Of Lauren
>> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 9:45 a.m.
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible
>>
>> Does this mean you cannot use the device without a PC? It will not
>> speak
>> menus when you want to choose the songs, etc. on the device itself?
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Lauren
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>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:37 PM
>> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible
>>
>>
>>> Hi Stephen, I have not played with one so am going based on what  
>>> I've
>>> read,
>>> but it appears that what happens is that when your nano is
>>> connected to
>>> your
>>> PC or Mac, a scan is made for all albums and songs on your nano.
>>> Using
>>> your
>>> default system voice, say RealSpeak Daniel in SAPI 5 as an example,
>>> files
>>> are generated for every artist, song and album. These are then
>>> copied to
>>> your Nano so that as you move through the menus, albums and tracks,
>>> you
>>> can
>>> hear what these tracks are. So this is quite different from having
>>> real
>>> text
>>> to speech on the device itself, and emulates what the guys at
>>> Rockbox gave
>>> us quite some time ago, but is still commendable nonetheless.
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
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>>> ]
>>> On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra
>>> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 8:18 a.m.
>>> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>>> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible
>>>
>>> Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it
>>> feeds
>>> off
>>> the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way  
>>> off.
>>>
>>> Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech?
>>>
>>>
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>>> ]
>>> On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM
>>> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>>> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible
>>>
>>> Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not
>>> use
>>> text
>>> to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5
>>> years,
>>> where
>>> they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files
>>> that
>>> live
>>> on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs.
>>>
>>> In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive
>>> use of
>>> Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will
>>> be able
>>> to
>>> work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for
>>> iTunes
>>> in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this
>>> today
>>> and
>>> am able to use the iTunes Music Store, the Radio feature and many
>>> others.
>>> Apple have done a good job here.
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
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>>> On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 6:53 a.m.
>>> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>>> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible
>>>
>>> Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is
>>> accessible, but
>>> I
>>> haven't seen one, so I don't know.
>>> Cheers
>>> Alex
>>>
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>>> ]
>>> On Behalf Of Lauren
>>> Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible
>>>
>>> If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well?
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Lauren
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>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM
>>> Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible
>>>
>>>
>>>> Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac.
>>>>
>>>>
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