Larry and list: You may be right, but I have been told that Total Recorder 7.1 should work; at least I understood that he meant "standard edition" I suppose I could be wrong about that!
Tom Kaufman
----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Higgins" <lhigg...@tbcnet.com>
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OK, I'm gonna make one more stab at this, and you ain't gonna like it I'm afraid. Maybe cutting and pasting, and deleting within a file crosses over into editing territory, and such options may be available only in the Pro edition and above. I'll bet you aren't able to append one file to another either. That unfortunately may end up being the source of your problem. I certainly hope not, but I don't think you'll regret making the upgrade.

At 07:35 PM 5/3/2011, you wrote:
Hello Larry and list: Afraid I'm a step ahead of you on this one, Larry; have already done that "search" thing as I had that same thought; I came up empty, except for the copy that WD Smartware had backed up of the part of the file I ended up saving; the one I wanted to "cut away" from the main file!
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Just making sure. When you save as, when you tab backwards to see where the file is being saved, it is being saved on the desktop? Just for the hell of it, do a search on your hard drive for your file with Windows find, just in case there is a duplicate. If there is, that may be the one you have been working on.

I really wish you luck with this one. As I suggested, you might send an enquiry to the guys at High Criteria and maybe that can suggest something we haven't thought of. TR sure has been a great and reliable utility for me for a lot of years, and I hope it will be for you in the very near future.

Good luck,

Larry

At 06:17 PM 5/3/2011, you wrote:
Larry and list: Actually have done all of that (TR saves my recorded files to the desk top) just as I want it to for now; it's not something that most people would do, but I usually save it there; then move it to where I want it. And yes I have tried doing the "save" through the menus; at least I think I am using the right thing; (control-S" certainly hasn't worked for me) in case I haven't done so, let me thank you and the rest of the list for sticking with me on this!
Tom Kaufman
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Also try creating a new file from some other recording source, just to see where it might go when saving. You might save using the file menu in order to see just where files are being saved too. Have you tried saving your work through the menus, rather than just pressing ctrl-s. Try doing that, and tab backward from the file name just to get an idea where TR is likely to save a file.

At 05:17 PM 5/3/2011, you wrote:
Okay: have checked the "my music" folder (not there) will next look in "my documents!"
Tom Kaufman
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Are you absolutely sure that the work is being saved to the file on the desktop?

Maybe you should copy the file to another folder, then bring the new copy up from within that new folder with TR, and do it all over again. Just forget the copy in the desktop. I know, it really shouldn't make a difference, but I believe it is possible that TR might be saving your resulting file to a folder of its own choosing, although I can't say why exactly. I'm just trying to make sure that you are sure that TR is using the desktop as a default, because it doesn't usually. If I remember correctly, I think it saves folders under my documents\my music, but not sure anymore. I have my files presently saved to a folder of my own creation called "TR Downloads." That is where I save my audio streamed recordings at present.

I know that this is a matter of personal preference, but I really don't like to do such tasks from the desktop anyway, just for housekeeping purposes, but I have my organizational eccentricities just like everybody else does <g>.

At 04:35 PM 5/3/2011, you wrote:
Larry and list: Okay; how do I go about telling (it's not putting a second file on my desk top, so how do I know?
Tom Kaufman
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Again Tom, I hope you aren't mistakenly playing a previous copy of the original file using Winamp, giving you the misimpression that TR isn't doing its work. Or maybe I'm actually hoping that is exactly what you are doing, because if you are... You might feel a bit foolish for a while after realizing that you've been making such a mistake, but there's nothing like making a bit of a fool of yourself to learn such a lesson <g>. Believe me, no one here will be laughing at you if this is the case, certainly not me.

At 03:30 PM 5/3/2011, you wrote:
Larry and list: As far as I can tell, once I've marked the areas, then hit "Delete" then "control-S" (which someone told me really didn't think that did anything) I then play the file in Total Recorder and that part (when I come to it) appears to be gone; the beginning of the file will start to play! So then I close TR, play my file in Winamp, go to the end of the file and find that all of the "access: is still remaining there! I'm fairly sure that I have to be missing something somewhere along the way; probably something I'm not doing right!
Tom Kaufman
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Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 3:55 PM
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OK Tom, one more point of clarification. If you delete the selection, save the file, then close TR, then return to TR and reopen the previously saved file with the selected material gone, is it really gone? I mean when replaying it in TR, not with Winamp.

Is there no chance that you aren't mistakenly replaying a copy of the file in another location when using Winamp from another folder on your hard drive.

Sorry, I know some of these questions have to be rather irritating, but until we get this thing figured out, no stone should go unturned <g>.


At 02:35 PM 5/3/2011, you wrote:
Hello DJC and list: Yes; this might be the way to go, but as I understand it, Total Recorder is _supposed_ to do this as well; it just seems like, for some reason, (at least in my case) this is not happening! The really weird thing is: in "Total Recorder" when I do the steps necessary to accomplish this, if if I play the file in Total Recorder, it does exactly as I want it to! But then when I play the original file, the part I tried to cut out is still very much alive and well! Go figure!
Tom Kaufman
----- Original Message ----- From: "djc" <dcoc...@comcast.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 11:56 AM
Subject: Re[2]: Progress Report On My Total Recorder Problem


Tom an easier way to edit files is with a program called mp3 direct cut. That one will allow you to mark the beginning and the end of the portion
you want to cut out. That program is freeware.
http://mpesch3.de1.cc/mp3dc.html


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On 5/3/2011 at 11:25 AM Tom Kaufman wrote:

Ken and list: Well here's what I got: I got a "saved" version of the
file
that I wanted to cut off (this is not what I wanted) I want to take the leftover part of the file and cut it off! I can make "Total Recorder"
play
it that way, but then when I go to play the actual file, using "Winamp,
_all
of the file_ including the part I want to take off is still _there! I
don't
Ken: not sure I'll be able to call you today, but I may end up calling you

sometime as I want to find out what I'm doing wrong!
Tom Kaufman
----- Original Message ----- From: "KEN REED" <kvreed...@comcast.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: Progress Report On My Total Recorder Problem


hi thom, just call me, what I'm telling you works for me every time. If the markers are in place the save selection as option is what you
want.
just give it a name , tell it where you want to put it and your done. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Kaufman" <tomca...@comcast.net>
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Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: Progress Report On My Total Recorder Problem


Hello Ken and list: No soap! Either I'm misunderstanding, or this
just
doesn't work! I did as you explained; all I get is (when going to that

"special file" thing) is the option to repair the file! I didn't think

that was what I wanted, but tried it anyway! Result: I _still_ have
the
part of the file I don't want! Maybe I misunderstood something?
Tom Kaufman
----- Original Message ----- From: "KEN REED" <kvreed...@comcast.net>
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Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: Progress Report On My Total Recorder Problem


Hi Thom
I don't know what controll s is used for.
What I said is
Shift l marks the left boundary and shift r marks the right boundary
or
the stream.
Once this region is marked there is a special file save that you get
to
using the alt key.
arow down in through the files menue and you will se special file save

and after you have named the file keep tabing until you se different
options for mp3 atc atc.
If you still have gtrouble call me at
860-874-5495

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Kaufman" <tomca...@comcast.net>
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Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 2:33 AM
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Hello Ken and list: Not sure I understand what you're saying here;
when
I press the "control-S" thing, nothing at all happens as far as I can

tell! Am I missing something here?
Tom Kaufman
----- Original Message ----- From: "KEN REED" <kvreed...@comcast.net>
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Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: Progress Report On My Total Recorder Problem


Hi Thom
If the file is properly marked with the
shift l for left and shift r for the rithe boundary, then when you
save the file,
thereis an option called special save that lets yhyou save that
marked
section.

Don't forget to use the undo after you use this.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Kaufman" <tomca...@comcast.net>
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Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 2:30 PM
Subject: Progress Report On My Total Recorder Problem


Hi list: If you've been following this thread, you know that I've been trying to trim off the unwanted parts of a file! Thanks to lister Richard Godfrey, we were able to do it; well, sort of! I
can
get Total Recorder to do what I want to do; now my problem is:
Total
Recorder _will not_ save my changes! Richard tells me that, upon pressing "control-S" you don't get that "save as" dialog (which I didn't! But when I then play my original file, all of the file is ___still_ _there_!" I really don't want to re-install TR; afraid I

might not get things set back as they are now! Can anybody advise
on
what may be causing TR to not save my edit?
Tom Kaufman, feeling frustrated and a little hungry; gonna go have
lunch now!
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