My Reply follows quote. On 05/11/2005 07:50 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:  

>At 04:55 PM -0800 11/04/2005, Clark Martin wrote:
>>At 7:04 PM -0500 11/4/05, Gary & Jamie Witmer wrote:
>>>I was considering a Verizon DSL account until the Verizon rep told 
>>>me I need OS X. I recall a thread sometime ago about using DSL w/o 
>>>using all the Verizon software. Could anyone point me in the right 
>>>direction in the archives to that info, or does anyone have 
>>>experience using Verizon DSL on a power mac (not upgraded to G3 or 
>>>G4)? I have a Performa 6400/180, and am running OS 8.1
>>
>>I'm going to assume here that Verizon DSL uses The Abomination known as 
PPPoE.
>
>Yup.  Verizon uses PPPoE for tracking. :\
>
>>That would be one reason for requiring OS X.  While there are OS 9 
>>clients, they have problems.  OS X's PPPoE client appears to work 
>>reasonably well.
>
>Something about the flavour of PoE that Verizon uses - it doesn't get 
>along well with MacPoet etc.  Stable with the built-in support in 
>Panther and Tiger tho.
>
>>A simple way around it though is to use a router, even if you only 
>>have one machine.  The router deals with PPPoE and your computer(s) 
>>only need to access it via ordinary TCP/IP.
>
>That's what I've had to do with all my clients here.  Reasonable 
>solution, IMO.  PPPoE is a PITA.  The farther away from your Macs and 
>PCs it is, the better.
>
>FWIW,
>- Dan.
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Hmmm. Well, I just examined the settings of my Linksys router and
see that the box for "Enable PPPoE" is not checked. There is a 
"note" below the check boxes that says "NOTE: PPPoE is for ADSL
user only." What does this mean if "Verizon uses PPPoE for tracking?"
They use it but it is not necessary?

I'm lost.

Ken

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