On Aug 21, 2009, at 10:25 AM, George Ker wrote:


Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans <at> at.or.at> writes:


So, now's a good time to start contributing.  Fix up the languages
that are there, or add more languages or even country-specific
versions of a language.  Here are the files:
http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/branches/pd-devel/0.41.4/po/

Hello to all,
I'm a PD beginner living in Greece. I saw your "call for translations"
and was interested
in helping translating the app for the Greek language. I'm now a pd- list
member because of this call. So, I have allready translated
in Poedit and LocFactory Editor (as recommended)
all the template from SourceForge.
 I have some problems that your guidance would be appreciated,
because it's my FIRST attempt in something like that.

Welcome!

         -The first one is what I should do with "PureData language specific"
terms.
I recommend for terms like: Object, Atom Box, Symbol, Bang, Slider,
Patch etc that no Greek translation should be done. Yes, of course
I know what an "Object" means , and "Atom Box" could easily be
translated, but wouldn't it be a drawback for users? Even
for me, the translator of the app would be confusing if all
tutorials / help patches/ lists were using them... and then
I had to face with terms: Object, Slider, Patch, DSP
etc translated in Greek language in my installed App!
I asked a friend of mine and he wouldn't use the translated
app either! I find it like translating the MIDI acronyms.
Too ugly and scary...
 As a conclusion, I left some terms as they are. I want
 your opinion.

There has been lots of debate on that topic. I think it really depends on what people think will make the most sense in that language.

         -The second problem is that nowhere in Poedit is
mentioned my contribution :| . The only thing shown is
something about "last translator" in LocFactory Editor.
I don't mind about the licence but wouldn't it be right for
me to impress girls in my college more easily after
my work in translation of the PD app????

I think you have to set up your information in the preferences, but I don't know anything beyond that.

        -The third problem is: when I' m completely finished,
where I should upload the .po file and how?

Post it to the list here, and someone with SVN commit access can add it.

        -The last and more serious problem is that I can't
test my gr.po file. Everything needs to be done with
sudo to run and be installed properly and when I reach
the commands from your guide:
                $ ./autogen.sh && .configure && make

there are some errors in the terminal:
                rm: src/config*: No such file or directory
                rm: src/makefile*: No such file or directory
                ./autogen.sh: line 13: libtoolize: command not found



I think no problems were in the gettext installation.
I' m on an intel Macbook Pro 2008, with MacOSX Leopard.



You need to install GNU libtool. Using Fink is the way that the Mac OS X builds of Pd use. http://finkproject.org. Or really, I should make a build system that doesn't need libtool... coming soon.

.hc





Thank you,

George Ker
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