On Sun, Feb 19, 2012, at 11:19, Ángel Faraldo wrote: > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@at.or.at> > > Date: February 18, 2012 9:02:07 PM GMT+01:00 > > To: Ángel Faraldo <angelfara...@gmail.com> > > Cc: João Pais <jmmmp...@googlemail.com>, "pd-list@iem.at List" > > <pd-list@iem.at> > > Subject: Re: [PD] new editing features of Pd-extended 0.43, now in beta! > > > >> also frequent and irregular audio clicks on mac OSX 10.6.8, no matter how > >> big the delay time is set to in the audio properties. (Tested with 'test > >> audio/midi patch' @ SR 44100 and 48000 Hz with built-in audio, portaudio). > > > What kind of computer and audio interface are you using? > > macbook pro 2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with OSX 10.6.8. I tested it with > the built-in audio and a RME Fireface 800 with similar results.
I'm on a very similar machine', a MacBook pro 3 - 2.4ghz running 10.6.8. Ive never seen this before. I don't have any external interface, perhaps its related to the drivers from your interface? Just a guess. Do other audio apps work? Like Audacity? It also uses portaudio. Please file a bug report on this one too. .hc > > > > Hmm yeah, [cputime] does seem broken. Could you post a bug report please? > > done > > ángel faraldo > > > > .hc > > > > On Feb 18, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Ángel Faraldo wrote: > > > >> Hi there, > >> > >> also frequent and irregular audio clicks on mac OSX 10.6.8, no matter how > >> big the delay time is set to in the audio properties. (Tested with 'test > >> audio/midi patch' @ SR 44100 and 48000 Hz with built-in audio, portaudio). > >> > >> also, [cputime] appears not to work. > >> > >> (pd-0.43.1-extended-20120218-macosx105-i386) > >> > >> Ángel Faraldo > >> _________________ > >> www.angelfaraldo.info > >> > >> > >> On Feb 18, 2012, at 6:41 PM, João Pais wrote: > >> > >>> It sounds as if the audio isn't synced to the system card, or something. > >>> The sinus in the audio test patch has lots of irregular clicks, almost as > >>> if they would be dropouts. > >>> > >>>> > >>>> What do you mean by noisy? Can you give more information? I really > >>>> don't know much about Windows, so I rely on others to tell me how things > >>>> there should be handled. patco and pob have been doing a lot of > >>>> valuable work there. > >>>> > >>>> .hc > >>>> > >>>> On Feb 18, 2012, at 12:13 PM, João Pais wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hi Hans, > >>>>> > >>>>> great job. But, here in XP, I get audio problems: trying to run with > >>>>> asio (as I always do with 0.42), the audio is very noisy. > >>>>> Audio options are -asio -audioindev 2 -audiooutdev 2 -channels 2 > >>>>> -midiindev 1 -midioutdev 1 -audiobuf 40, and they always worked with > >>>>> previous versions of pd-ext. > >>>>> > >>>>> João > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> http://at.or.at/hans/blog/2012/02/17/new-editing-feature-of-pd-extended-0-43-now-in-beta/ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The Pd-extended 0.43 release has been brewing an extra long time, > >>>>>> about 18 months now, mostly because there are lots of big > >>>>>> improvements, and we wanted to make sure we got it right, so your > >>>>>> patches all work, but the improvements all shine. Its now solidly > >>>>>> beta, so we’re looking for testers. Download a nightly build to try > >>>>>> here: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> First off, the pd-gui side of Pd has been re-written from scratch. > >>>>>> When you run Pd, you are actually running two programs: pd is the core > >>>>>> engine and pd-gui is the GUI. Since basically all computers now come > >>>>>> with multiple CPU cores, this means that pd-gui will usually run on a > >>>>>> separate CPU core than pd, so they don’t step on each other’s toes. pd > >>>>>> can entirely take over its own core. If you want to make your patch > >>>>>> use more CPU cores, then check out the [pd~] object introduced in the > >>>>>> last release (0.42.5). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> pd still handles some of the GUI stuff, but we are working on > >>>>>> splitting that out for the 0.44 release. That is a big chunk of work > >>>>>> but it will also bring big gains. In particular, it means that it will > >>>>>> be possible for people to write their own GUIs for Pd, covering not > >>>>>> just the display of the patch, but also the editing, and everything > >>>>>> else. You like OpenFrameworks, python, iOS, JUCE, Qt, etc.? Write your > >>>>>> own pd-gui using the toolkit of your choice. That’s the idea at least. > >>>>>> That will take a solid chunk of work, so we are looking for people to > >>>>>> join that effort. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> There are so many ideas for making a better editing experience in Pd, > >>>>>> this release makes big strides to address the editing experience. > >>>>>> There are new features like Magic Glass, Autotips, Autopatch and Perf > >>>>>> Mode, all available on the Edit menu. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> • Magic Glass let’s you magically see the messages as they pass > >>>>>> through the cords. Just turn it on and hover above a cord, and you’ll > >>>>>> see the messages as they go by. You can even look at signal/audio > >>>>>> cords. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> • Autotips gives you tips about what an object does, what its inlet > >>>>>> expects, and what comes out of the outlets. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> • Autopatch mode automatically connects objects as you create them. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> • Perf Mode, is a mode for performance that makes it harder to > >>>>>> accidentally close windows that are part of your performance. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The Pd Window is also majorly overhauled. First of all, its fast. Much > >>>>>> much faster than the old one. You can now print thousands of messages > >>>>>> per second to the Pd Window and still edit your patch. No more will an > >>>>>> accidental dump of info cause the GUI to freeze up (well, ok, maybe if > >>>>>> you send 10,000 messages/second but that is a way too many). There are > >>>>>> also now 5 levels of printing messages to the Pd Window: fatal, error, > >>>>>> normal, debug, all. If you are only interested in fatal errors, switch > >>>>>> the Pd Window to 0 – fatal, and you’ll only see the worst problems. > >>>>>> You want to see every single message to debug? Switch to 4 – all, and > >>>>>> you’ll get the whole firehose. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> There is also the new log library, which lets you easily send messages > >>>>>> for those different levels. And all messages logged with the objects > >>>>>> from the log library are clickable: when you Ctrl-Click or Cmd-click > >>>>>> (Mac OS X) on the line in the Pd Window, it’ll pop up the patch where > >>>>>> the message came from, and highlight the specific object that printed > >>>>>> it. That even works for many messages from other objects as well. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The Pd Window also includes very basic level meters for monitoring the > >>>>>> input and output levels. And for those who want to play with the GUI > >>>>>> in realtime, you can type Tcl code in the Tcl entry field, and > >>>>>> directly modify and probe the running GUI. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> One thing that you can do now is customize the GUI using GUI plugins. > >>>>>> You can change all sorts of colors, some fonts, and many behaviors. > >>>>>> Want to create a new object when you triple-click? Try the tripleclick > >>>>>> example plugin Want to make the patch cords disappear when you leave > >>>>>> Edit Mode? Check out the “only show cords in edit mode” example. Those > >>>>>> are the simple ones. There is also Tab Completion, a search engine for > >>>>>> the docs, a category browser for the right-click menu, a buttonbar for > >>>>>> creating objects, and more. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You can find many GUI plugins in the new section of the downloads page > >>>>>> as well as documentation for making your own. 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