> > What you are
> > saying is EXACTLY what I and others have been saying. When I and others
say
> > or allude to the fact that mathematics existed before the dawn of time

Actually he is quite correct.  You are imposing a human element to natural
occurances, which is erroneous.  You are speaking about a completely
separate issue of 'concepts' and 'measures', a human invention.

Prime numbers are also a subject of debate in space.  We 'coin' a term that
exists and was discovered, and also relates to things beyond our world,
hence before we had knowledge of it.

> Sorry, Bob, but I'm with Dr. Don on this one. What he's said about six
times
> is perfectly correct and I think you're the one not getting it.
Mathematics
> is a human invention and a late one. It hasn't "existed since the dawn of
> time." How did it exist? Were there dinosaur math professors? It's a human
> invention, practiced by humans, and it's evolving--it's a hell of a lot
more
> advanced right now than it was fifty or a hundred years ago, never mind
> since the dawn of time. What, was differential calculus just out there on
> the savannahs waiting for the Neanderthals to discover it?
>
> What you're saying makes no more sense than saying that carburetors have
> existed since the dawn of time. Or scissors, or opera.
>
> --Mike
>
>


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