there was a press release on a pentax site tha gave a very complete
description of the mz-s. it is a full 1/4 of a pound lighter then the
pz1p. does not have the shutter  speed  or motor drive speed  and
exposuer compensation only goes 3 stops instead 4 . thats is an awful
lot of money for only a few advances .



Mike, adding two cents to your point:
How many professionals buy cameras and how many commited amateurs are there
in the world. I suspect that is better to sell a u$s 500 camera to
10.000.000 people than a u$s 2000 to 50.000..... so Pentax goes for the
first option. Intelligent move :-)

Martin
-----Original Message-----
From: mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, February 26, 2001 8:45 AM
Subject: MZ-S worth


>Hi all,
>
>Someone said
>"I simply find it absurd to even imagine that Pentax or any
>other manufacturer (Nikon and the F100), would make a body out
>of something that is in any way, less than satisfactory for a
>pro caliber camera."
>
>Once again we come back to definitions.  My point in bringing in
>comparisons to racing vehicles in the "body shell" thread was to
>point out that "professionals" have different parameters to
>"amateurs".  If a machine disintegrates on the finish line after
>winning the race - well, that's the price to be paid.  It's
>"done the job", the cost possibilities were factored into the
>equation before the person decided to race and it was decided
>that the cost was worth it.
>
>Trying to carry this over into camera construction; how long
>should a "professional" model last?  One year in
>photojournalism?  With a 75,000 cycle shutter life this equates
>to 40 films per week before significant repair/servicing.
>Certainly two years would seem to be the maximum at this rate
>for any current model.  All well and good, but I suspect many
>businesses would take the view that the camera had "done its
>job" by then and get rid of it.  (This is where the racing
>engine analogy falls down somewhat - all other things being
>equal, repair/replacement of the shutter and film transport
>should restore the camera to full functionality)
>
>Now if you were the design manager of a camera company, what
>would your perspective be on a "professional" model which you
>knew was going to be sold on after a few years at most by a
>large proportion of your customers.  Once they do that, it is
>out of your ken and you are competing for repeat sales to the
>original customer.  Are you really going to build a body which
>will last a decade or more, with all the associated cost?  Or
>will you go for the option which gives you a cost-effective
>chance of lasting for the anticipated ownership of the buyer?  I
>strongly suspect the latter.
>
>One of the reasons I like Pentax is that the level of
>compatability between different models leads me to think that
>they are more interested in the committed amateur (and we all
>are, aren't we?) than the "professional" market.  It would be
>really disappointing for me if they moved away from that.
>
>mike
>
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