If you are a very artistic type and figure your printing and selection is important too, you can simply charge a package price. "I will shoot your wedding produce an album similar to my samples with X number of prints for $2000."
Those ways of working seem to be the only viable options in today's world. Note the both are basically a flat fee job. The days of shooting for little or nothing then making your money on the prints are pretty much gone, if they ever existed. I never met anyone making a living doing it that way although I have met many trying to do so. It seems to work only for guys writing books on how to make money shooting weddings (grin).
Remember no matter what you do for a living, if your customers (or employer) are not willing to pay your wage, plus costs, you can not make a living working for them. That is a simple fact of life.
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Cotty wrote:
On 24/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
The numbskull (deleted much stronger verbiage) bride took the 5x5 proofs to some jiffy print outfit and scanned them then got enlargements made from the scans to save a few dollars.
I feel your pain.
I used to think b+g's were just cheap, but I think in general they just don't know any better. I have found that if you explain to people that a) this sort of thing results in crappy prints, b) it's a federal offense, and c) this is how you make a living, and you make sure they sign a contract that states the above, then you'll have fewer problems.
Now, how did you find out she made copy prints? You can still read her the riot act.
The last issue is that it sounds like this was done for free, more or less. This may or may not say something about how she values photography. Some people don't...it sounds like you value your work and effort more than she does. The way to avoid this sort of client is higher prices, or at least an *explicit* understanding of what your value is. I still do the occasional cheap gig for friends, but these days I make sure they understand what they're getting, what sort of work is involved on my end, what's expected of them, etc.
Also, I would imagine it helps a tiny bit to ensure there's plenty of text across everything but the faces like 'SAMPLE' or 'PROOF' - in fact also lots of small text as a few large letters are pretty easy to dispose of in Photoshop....
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Cheers, Cotty
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