PS> Your comments below suggest to me that you've never tried to shoot PS> birds. Unless you're baiting them or in an area where they're used to PS> seeing people, it's extremely difficult without very big glass-- no PS> matter how long you wait. I would never attempt to shoot birds with PS> anything less than a 400mm lens, and I prefer something in the range PS> of 600-1200. PS> Paul
Hi Paul, have you never constructed hideouts, or blinds, or whatsit called in English? For many,many species it works very well. For others, well, big glass is of course good. My comment was not directed against those using big glass when photographing birds. But if you need to photograph something else than just the regular shots, you need persistence,persistence,persistence and no amount of big glass will help you. What about NG? I do not think their photographers just go out into forest with an 5.6/800 lens. My comment was against those who thing they get a big lens and can shoot birds. When Vic, by his own words, felt 'humbled' (probably not so seriously <g>) by them for having 'only' a Pentax with 400 lens. Best regards, Frantisek Vlcek