Wow Herb that gives you an effective focal length of about 1000mm at
f4.5 (ish). What are the results like? I have a Tokina 300mm f2.8 and a
1.7 AF TC (765mm @f4.5) and the results are pretty good. The SMC glass
can only make it better...

Cheers

Shaun 

Dr. Shaun Canning
Cultural Heritage Services
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Karratha, Western Australia, 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 10:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Point Pelee-Lots of big glass

same thoughts here. i can identify birds with binoculars at easily 2-3
times
the distance i can take a decent recognition shot of a bird, let alone
an
artistic shot, unless they are habituated to people or i am in a blind.
Mark
Cassino and i both use as our birding configuration of choice an A*
400/2.8
with the 1.7X AF extender on an *istD. you can do the math. i have my
eye on
the FA* 600/4 soley to get publishable birding photos of small wild
birds,
and i plan to use it with an extender a lot of the time. the A* 1200/8
is a
distant possibility too. the only reason Vic didn't see any Canon
1200/5.6
IS lenses is because even for a serious bird photographer, it's out of
their
price league at $76K street price and weighs 36 lbs. people who have
used
the Sigma 800/5.6 report that it is good enough to be a viable
alternative
to manufacturer's glass.

Herb....
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: Point Pelee-Lots of big glass


> I'm sure there were many very good photos taken at Point Pelee. It's a
> favorite haunt for some of the country's best nature photographers.
> Your comments below suggest to me that you've never tried to shoot
> birds. Unless you're baiting them or in an area where they're used to
> seeing people, it's extremely difficult without very big glass-- no
> matter how long you wait. I would never attempt to shoot birds with
> anything less than a 400mm lens, and I prefer something  in the range
> of 600-1200.




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