Of course it was a rude, thoughtless act designed solely to ruffle feathers and create a stir. I mean clearly, this is the case, it was not simply a mistake on the part of the author, no way, no how. Simply not the case at all. In fact, you can clearly see in the following example that the two names "Frantisek", and "Frank", bear absolutely no similarities, this is true despite the fact that these name are actually feminine and masculine forms of each other... DESPITE that, it is clear they bear no resemblance, physically, or in terms of pronunciation. The chances of miss-writing one as the other are slim to none, bordering on infinitesimally small, tiny, percentages well below 1, and in fact quite close to 0. Hence I presume that no way on this earth did our dear fellow Antonio make a simple mistake of language, in fact, this is quite clearly a rip on BOTH Frank AND Frantisek, as it seeks to call Frantisek a man, and Frank a woman, a scenario that is wholly untrue, being without proof or basis in reality... In conclusion, I must support Frank in his assertions, however, I must stress, that the previous paragraph written by my, was largely tongue in cheek, and hence open to the interpretations that implies...
-That Guy -----Original Message----- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 10:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Trolls & how-to Perhaps if Antonio showed enough respect to actually get the ~name right~ of the person he is responding to, folks around here might show him a bit of respect, too. Just to set the record straight, Frantisek wrote the intial post, not me. By referring to him as "Frank", I don't know if Antonio thought I was the initial author, or if he's just being "humourous" or simply rude or thoughtless in mis-naming Frantisek. regards, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer >From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Trolls & how-to >Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:09:31 -0400 > >Antonio, >If you had been around longer you would know how wrong you are. There's no >old boy network here. But there is a group of friends who have learned to >treat each other with respect. We value that highly and do our best to >convince others that it's the best way. >Paul > > >On Jun 13, 2004, at 6:40 PM, Antonio Aparicio wrote: > >>Frank, withh respect If you killfield Shawn some time ago and have not >>followed the thread, you cannot realistically have any idea of what you >>are talking about. >> >>My view on all of this is that there seems to be some form of old boy >>network on this list, and if you disagree with one of the oldies you get >>attacked by the others. Things may have got out of hand, and I certainly >>do not condone hi-jacking peoples ID's, but I think that all those who >>have participated in the various exchanges need to take responsability for >>their role - to single out one individual and ban them just seems very >>wrong. Anyway, thats my .02 pence. >> >>Antonio >> >>On 14 Jun 2004, at 00:33, Frantisek Vlcek wrote: >> >>>I have not been following the thread, having that individual killfiled >>>already, long time ago. Thus I cannot much tell if the abuse reports are >>>real, extreme or exagerrated even a little. I am seeing just the >>>replies and his quoted text, somtimes. >>> >>>But if anybody feels there is net abuse going on, here is what you can >>>do: >>> >>>00) do not reply to the stupid messages. It just fuels the flame war. >>>See "Godwin's law". Ignoring idiots is the best way to make them shut >>>up. >>> >>>0) contact the list owner. I do not know if anybody has been ever >>>blacklisted from the PDML, as we were lucky we haven't got our share >>>of trolls. >>> >>>1) contact him personally. Just look on his website (strip the string >>>before @ and add "www"), there is contact information. >>> >>>2) complain to his ISP. You can use WHOIS to find out all sort of >>>things about him. By this form of abuse, he is certainly breaching >>>both his ISP and mailservice useragreements, by abusive behaviour on >>>the net. He could get his account suspended for this. >>> >>>Just enter the domain name into the below form: >>> >>>One of the many online whois forms is here >>>http://centralops.net/samples/AutoWhois.vbs.asp >>> >>>You can see his webhosting service, which might or might not provide >>>his email address as well. And you can see the other contact >>>mailaddress. I do not know which one he used to post to PDML. >>> >>>You can of course do the above points in any order deemed fit. >>> >>>There are members more knowledgable in using ways of the web than me >>>who can correct me probably if I got something wrong here. >>> >>>fra >>> >> > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=htt p://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
