Apologies Frantisek. Your sig read "fra", which I presumed had been cut
short and that your name was Frank. My mistake.
Antonio
On 14 Jun 2004, at 04:29, frank theriault wrote:
Perhaps if Antonio showed enough respect to actually get the ~name
right~ of the person he is responding to, folks around here might show
him a bit of respect, too.
Just to set the record straight, Frantisek wrote the intial post, not
me. By referring to him as "Frank", I don't know if Antonio thought I
was the initial author, or if he's just being "humourous" or simply
rude or thoughtless in mis-naming Frantisek.
regards,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The
pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer
From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Trolls & how-to
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:09:31 -0400
Antonio,
If you had been around longer you would know how wrong you are.
There's no old boy network here. But there is a group of friends who
have learned to treat each other with respect. We value that highly
and do our best to convince others that it's the best way.
Paul
On Jun 13, 2004, at 6:40 PM, Antonio Aparicio wrote:
Frank, withh respect If you killfield Shawn some time ago and have
not followed the thread, you cannot realistically have any idea of
what you are talking about.
My view on all of this is that there seems to be some form of old
boy network on this list, and if you disagree with one of the oldies
you get attacked by the others. Things may have got out of hand, and
I certainly do not condone hi-jacking peoples ID's, but I think that
all those who have participated in the various exchanges need to
take responsability for their role - to single out one individual
and ban them just seems very wrong. Anyway, thats my .02 pence.
Antonio
On 14 Jun 2004, at 00:33, Frantisek Vlcek wrote:
I have not been following the thread, having that individual
killfiled
already, long time ago. Thus I cannot much tell if the abuse
reports are
real, extreme or exagerrated even a little. I am seeing just the
replies and his quoted text, somtimes.
But if anybody feels there is net abuse going on, here is what you
can
do:
00) do not reply to the stupid messages. It just fuels the flame
war.
See "Godwin's law". Ignoring idiots is the best way to make them
shut
up.
0) contact the list owner. I do not know if anybody has been ever
blacklisted from the PDML, as we were lucky we haven't got our share
of trolls.
1) contact him personally. Just look on his website (strip the
string
before @ and add "www"), there is contact information.
2) complain to his ISP. You can use WHOIS to find out all sort of
things about him. By this form of abuse, he is certainly breaching
both his ISP and mailservice useragreements, by abusive behaviour on
the net. He could get his account suspended for this.
Just enter the domain name into the below form:
One of the many online whois forms is here
http://centralops.net/samples/AutoWhois.vbs.asp
You can see his webhosting service, which might or might not provide
his email address as well. And you can see the other contact
mailaddress. I do not know which one he used to post to PDML.
You can of course do the above points in any order deemed fit.
There are members more knowledgable in using ways of the web than me
who can correct me probably if I got something wrong here.
fra
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