I don't need to buy or use the camera to see what they are doing sucks. Less support of legacy products with absolutely nothing gained in the process. This is kinda similar to when they switched from screwmount to K-mount. The SM auto aperure and aperture sensing was lost on the newer K bodies but there WAS a great gain, much better, quicker, mounting and unmounting of the new K lenses. But in this case with the istD, with the K/M ignorance there is NO GAIN, it's all LOSS.
Secondly, the second "point" you make is terrible. People who don't want a "non-K/M compatable" camera DON'T BUY IT. Of course the ones who do buy it don't mind and arent going to argue otherwise. Thirdly I don't think you did read the paragraph below because it isnt a *istD issue commentary. It's the new major pentax philosophy that I am very disappointed in... JCO -----Original Message----- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 8:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: istDs - what a great camera! Or course I read it. But it's only your opinion, and it's not even based on personal experience. IThe vast majority of Pentax users who've bought and used the *istD don't agree with you. On Sep 18, 2004, at 7:58 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > Guess you didn't read this: > > JCO wrote: > You guys don't seem to understand the implication of abandoning > support of K/M lenses with no technical ( and no one has yet proven it > was a cost issue either) reason to do so. They have crossed the line > and can longer be trusted to support anything you buy for any time as > they may decide whatever they want to do on anything. What if they > abandon A series next and when? There is now no limit to the shit they > might pull now. They have never done anything like this before so the > sky is the limit for them now.....They were ONCE one of the best > brands for compatibility of new products and support of older ones in > the process ( A, and F lenses for example). The fact they did not > change their mount when AF came out was great, unlike minolta and > canon did, but what was the point of abandoning very SIMPLE K/M > support now when there is no new lenses or mount changes? NONE except > to attempt to sell new lenses that I can see....And if a cheap part > removal "saved" costs, where is it in the price? Aint there! I don't > think there is any signifigant cost savings in K/M ignorance, that's > why the camera is still relatively expensive compared to their rivals. > This K/M aperture ignorance is absurd in a > top > line camera from them that isn't even price competitive and that > absurdity makes me no longer trust them at all..... The sad part is > Both > the K and the M lenses are better made (longer > life) than > the "A" series. Support the shit, abandon quality. What a policy. They > are now in the disposable camera market. JCO > ======================================================================= > = > ========================================================= > It's not just the simple issue of K/M aperure setting support, > it is their all new policy on product support in general that is the > real issue for me.....I would not buy ANY new product from them > expecting to get long term use out of it any more. > JCO > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 7:44 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: istDs - what a great camera! > > > Pentax didn't screw me. I'm very happy with the *ist D. When I bought > my first one, I owned only K and M lenses. I was so happy with the way > the *ist D worked with these lenses that I went out and bought a > second *istD. I also bought an FA lens and a DA lens, which is exactly > what Pentax had hoped for. Their strategy worked with me and many > other Pentax users. In fact, I would guess that at least 60% of those > list members who owned six or more Pentax lenses have already > purchased the *ist D and many of the others plan to do so. If you > don't, Pentax won't give a hoot. Paul > On Sep 17, 2004, at 9:09 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > >> The answer is Pentax is screwing the very people >> most likely to buy a PENTAX DSLR, those that already >> had plenty of Pentax lenses. If I was starting from scratch I would >> go Canon, not pentax. the only reason to go pentax is legacy product >> support which they arent doing. JCO >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 9:03 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: istDs - what a great camera! >> >> >> the answer is self-evident then. you aren't worth it to Pentax. >> >> Herb... >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 11:28 AM >> Subject: RE: istDs - what a great camera! >> >> >>> Then the aperture sensing cam must be about a dollar part, not ten >>> because many $150 cameras had it. >>> >>> Secondly, even if the cam made the istD SELL for a $100 more, it >>> would >> >>> be well worth it in terms of value added TO ME and would pay for >>> itself on the first good K/M lens it restored full function to. >> >> >
