> William Robb wrote:
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> > ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >>> Pentax hasn't made a 35mm pro camera since the LX.  ....
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> >> PZ-1, PZ-1p.
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> > Not according to the definitions of the pros that I hang out with.
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> > William Robb
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and John Francis said: "Not bad, but not pro.  Needs far better sealing, for 
a start."

and Margus Männik said:
> one of our pros outlisted Z-1p because " a pro camera NEVER has built-in 
> flash"... Actually, since we're talking about Pentax equipment, it's 
> "pro"' enough compared to some other cameras called as such.


To comment on the "built-in flash" thing: Everybody seems to have his own 
checklist. I recall, on another list, there was someone insisting the PZ-1 
couldn't be a pro camera because it didn't have an interchangeable prism. I 
don't think *that* definition could still be sticking ... Frankly I believe 
that if either Canon or Nikon marketed a camera with a built-in flash and 
promoted it as a pro camera, we wouldn't hear that it was disqualified. We 
might hear instead that it's a "first". (Has it happened yet? I don't keep up 
with their various models any more.)

We've established many times, including quite recently, that we cannot reach 
a consensus on what makes a "pro" camera. I happen to think that if the 
maker markets it as a pro camera, and some pros in fact use it on the job 
and find it durable and reliable and effective, then it's a pro camera. 
Having specs comparable to those of other brands of "pro" camera from the 
same era would also help to make the case. This is why I consider the PZ-1 
and PZ-1p to be pro cameras. 

I'm curious about the "far better sealing" comment by Mr Francis. I was not 
aware of a deficiency in the sealing on the PZ-1. 

ERN

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