Look I understand that film slrs are virtually history now and there wont be any more film SLR buyers but I don't think we are at the point where more DSLRS are being bought by first time SLRS users than former SLR users. With P&S being so popular in the 80's and 90's film era, what has changed to make the mass market want to switch BACK to DSLR instead of P&S digicams? I don't see it. I still feel that more DSLRS are bought by former SLR owners. Until you can show me some sources that show otherwise I simply wont cant see it but I am willing to see...SLRS fell out of mainstream about 15-20 years ago and I cant see the masses rushing back to them just because there's now digital ones available.. JCO
-----Original Message----- From: Adam Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 10:13 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: green button wars (again) The SLR market is a fraction of the total market. And the expansion of the DSLR market has been far too quick for it to just be film SLR owners buying in. The cash cow for the DSLR market has been folks upgrading from a mid-low end P&S digital. As demonstrated by the market taking off essentially as soon as the Digital Rebel came within shouting distance price-wise of the serious Prosumer Digitals (And that market isn't early the cash cow it was two years ago, because of the advent of $800 DSLR's). Photography has been undergoing a massive upsurge in popularity since affordable, decent P&S Digitals hit the market. And its the folks who got in with the P&S cameras and now want to upgrade who are driving DSLR sales, just like it was the folsk coming from P&S film cameras that always drove the core of low-end SLR sales. The SLR user has typically driven the high-end and mid-range sales, while the low-end are mostly coming into teh SLR market. And this has not changed with Digital, except the gapo in sales numbers is probably worse. Film SLR owners drove teh sales of the D100, 10d and *ist D, while upgraders have driven the D70, Rebel, Rebel XT and *ist DS sales. Cameras like the 20d are getting much of their sales from DSLR users upgrading. Of course, the Pro bodies were driven by Pro's upgrading from film, but now that's mostly driven by Pro's upgrading from older Digital bodies for the increased image quality and speed of the new-generation bodies like the Canon mkII's and the Nikon D2's. -Adam J. C. O'Connell wrote: >I don't understand your post. If your saying >the pentax list isnt the source for your claims >regarding DSLR buyers being first time SLR owners >than what is your source of this information? > >I ask because I find it hard to believe that there >are more DSLR buyers buying there first SLR than >there are former SLR owners buying their first DSLR. >jco > >-----Original Message----- >From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 9:01 PM >To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net >Subject: Re: green button wars (again) > > >this list is about as far from the buyers as you can possibly get. > >Herb.... >----- Original Message ----- >From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net> >Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 10:09 AM >Subject: RE: green button wars (again) > > > > >>Lets see some proof/numbers to back it up dude! I didn't claim to know >>for a fact but you seem to. How many people ON THIS LIST for example >>bought a PENTAX DSLR for their very first SLR? ANYONE? EVEN ONE >>PERSON? I would like to see a survey of DSLR owners of all >>brands and see how many of them actually never owned >>a single SLR before purchasing the DSLR. >> >>