Depends on how you work. I've shot sports with MF glass without prefocusing 10 seconds in advance. But I can focus fairly quickly as I follow the action.

I also find 2.5-3 fps to be plenty enough for me.

The lack of glass is a bigger issue.

And big cameras are an issue even for those who aren't hauling everything else. You still have to haul the camera.

-Adam



Jens Bladt wrote:
Yes, you can. If you have enough time. Pre focusing at the point where you
GUESS the athelete will be in 10 secs.
But when the action actually happends, using a 2.5 FPS camera is like going
to Las Vegas with just 10 USD in your pocket. It just doesn't cut it.

Pro's get the best available gear - that is 5-8 FPS bodies from Canon (90%)
or Nikon (10%).
Pentax don't want to be at the stadium. If they did, they'd make a 5-8 FPS
body and a lot of 1.4-2.8 (digital) lenses. They obviously don't want to.
They cut back on all pro style lenses in order to focus on consumer glass at
F. 3.5-5.6. A company that will only provide 2.5 FPS bodies can't sell a lot
of pricey F. 2.8 lenses, unless of course they come with Canon or Nikon
mount. How very surpricing! It is cage-chicken logic IMO. It should have
happened decades ago.

Pentax want to sell a lot of    small cameras to people who shoot for the
family or corporate album. Small cameras are not appealing to photographer
who go out just to photograph. They don't care much for weight and size.
Only people who bring a camera while they are really doing OTHER things care
about size and weight. That's the choise Pentax have made - and it's fine
with me. But it's still two very different worlds. Not compareable. They
serve different purposes. Don't confuse them.

Pentax don't want to sell cameras to the PJ's. Pentax does not want to make
cameras for action photography. Pentax have simply chosen not to invest in
this market. You and I can't change that no matter how many Pentaxes we buy,
they will still be pentaxes - nice, high quality consumer cameras.
Regards

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

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Fast lenses? yes. Fast body? not so much. One can shoot action with
Manual Focus gear.

-Adam

Jens Bladt wrote:

I'd rather stay an amateur too. And refrain from doing action photography,
BTW.

I was just making a point: Action photography requires fast lenses (and
perhaps a fast camera body :-).
And they are quite expensive.

BTW:
It's not really a lot of money, if you want to make a living from sports
photography.
Or if you just want to make excellent photograps, compareable with what is
published in the local paper.
Think of what a cap driver has to pay for a Mercedes Benz (90% of all

taxies

here are just that).
I believe they sell for 160.000 USD here. This also happens to be the
average cost of creating 1 job, where I live.

Regards

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

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Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
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Mark Roberts wrote:


Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




On 22/2/06, Jens Bladt, discombobulated, unleashed:



"Most professional sports photographers have the following set of

equipment:


3 top-of-the-line digital camera bodies, such as the Canon 1D or Nikon

D2H


($3,000 each)
6 Extra batteries ($100 each)
Extreme wide angle 14mm f/2.8 ($1,400)
Wide angle zoom lens 17 - 35mm f/2.8 ($1,400)
Fast short telephoto 85mm f/1.4 ($900)
Telephoto zoom 70-200 f/2.8 ($1,500)
Fast Telephoto 300mm f/2.8 ($4,400)
Fast Long Telephoto 400mm f/2.8 ($7,700)
Teleconverter 1.4x ($450)
Teleconverter 2x ($450)
2 Monopods ($150 each)
Tripod ($450)
2 Flashes ($400 each)
Radio Remotes ($300)
Light stands, umbrellas, misc lighting equipment ($500)
Laptop with extra ram ($2,500)
Photoshop ($600)
Other software ($500)
Rolling camera case ($300)
Rain gear ($500)

Total: $34,000"

Don't forget:

Insurance for above ($2500 yearly)
New car every 3 years ($28,000)
Interest on overdraft facility (£500)
Hospitality to kennel maids etc ($10,000)
Assistant ($22,000 yearly)
Drinking habit ($12,000)
Alimony ($68,000 yearly)


And:
Personal masseuse ($25,000 yearly)
Emergency gear rental when airline loses it $10,000
Licensing photos from Ken Rockwell when yours turn out like crap $50,000




And:
Sherpa named Cesar (six pack of beer daily)

--

Christian
http://photography.skofteland.net


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