Hi Adam
that was indeed a  very f a s t answer, thanks.
I should have mentioned that I would like to see some people shots (skin)
and would like to see them much bigger on my 1280 x960 monitor.
I simple can't judge the quality of the film or grain with your shots, the
sky seems quite grainy but that could be the
result of a long exposure?

So, does anybody have portrait shots in artificial light on high speed film
(not denoised, unsharpened) and a film brand recommendation for European
customers?

thanks a lot.
greetings
Markus



>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Adam Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 10:44 PM
>>To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
>>Subject: Re: Which high speed film for indoor shots ? was:RE: How do you
>>selectyour camera for the day? was
>>
>>
>>Here's some unpushed TMax 3200 in available light:
>>
>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/tags/3200tmz/
>>
>>-Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>Markus Maurer wrote:
>>> Hi Herb
>>> Welcome from my side first ;-)
>>> Could you post samples of unpushed ISO 3200 indoor shots with the Ilford
>>> 3200 film or other brands from ISO 800-3200 in available light?
>>> Unpushed, because I would have to send it to a "very standard" lab for
>>> developping.
>>> I plan a photo shooting on the 10 of april with celebrities indoor in a
>>> (gladly white) tent and would like not to use flash at all. It's the 75
>>> anniversary of a Swiss artist and my photos will be the birthday present
>>> later.
>>> I'm not sure about the lightning in the tent yet, I fear some nasty
>>> (green)fluorescent light spots, so b/w would be good ;-)
>>> Should I use Fuju Superia 1600 film or Konica 800 or your
>>Ilford 3200, the
>>> last time I took
>>> photographs inside I used Fuji 400 with the Spotmatic F and the
>>SMC Takumar
>>> 85mm at F1.8 on the monopod
>>> to get a bare 1/60 to 1/15. I will use the same Spotmatic
>>equipment and a
>>> 50mm 1.4 again, paired with the Olympus XA 2.8 35mm and a 17mm
>>Tamron 3.5
>>> for some overview shots.
>>>
>>> Of course, I welcome samples or recommendations "from the list" for fast
>>> **film** as well ;-)
>>>
>>> greetings
>>> Markus
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: herb greenslade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 8:43 PM
>>>>>To: Pentax User's group
>>>>>Subject: Re: How do you select your camera for the day? was: OT:
>>>>>Non-PentaxeBay Auction Question
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Tim
>>>>>
>>>>>I use the Leica for b&w using Ilford 3200 ISO film. I've used
>>>>>this film from 800 ISO to almost 12800 ISO depending on the lighting.
>>>>>If I take my LX, I use Fuji Press 800 ISO pushed one stop. I do
>>>>>this primarily to distinguish the artist from the background.
>>>>>
>>>>>I use film almost exclusively when I am seriously shooting
>>these events.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have experimented with the *istDS, most recently I've shot at
>>>>>ISO 3200 with a 1 stop overexposure and this has given me a
>>>>>satisfactory result. Note that I prefer to convert all colour into b&w.
>>>>>
>>>>>My images sometimes tend to be soft because of artist movement,
>>>>>and difficulty in focusing in low light (the rangefinder of the Leica
>>>>>is a great help). Of course, the big grain also does its share in
>>>>>lessening image quality. I'm also foolish enough much of the
>>time to use
>>>>>my older f4 Pentax lenses on the *istDS handheld.  I have no idea
>>>>>whatsoever why the club(s) I inhabit have such poor lighting, and
>>>>>then when they do happen to improve on it, the lighting manager
>>>>>or artist lowers the intensity, or plays in the shadows :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>but why do you change to the Leica when the lighting is
>>>>>
>>>>>extremely bad at concerts?
>>>>>
>>>>>I have much better latitude with film than with digital, also
>>>>>there is the "noise" issue when shooting at high ISO. Noise
>>doesn't have
>>>>>the same quality as big clump grain which usually is tolerated in
>>>>>bad lighting conditions.
>>>>>
>>>>>I hope this somewhat answers youre question.
>>>>>
>>>>>herb
>>>>>
>>>>>Tim Øsleby wrote
>>>>>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:32:11 -0800
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>This may be a naive question, but why do you change to the
>>Leica when the
>>>>>
>>>>>lighting is extremely bad at concerts?
>>>>>What I have noticed is that my DS has problems when the light
>>is very red.
>>>>>Is this what you refer to when saying this, and does the Leica
>>Fuji press
>>>>>handle this differently?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>

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