I don't think you have a good grasp of the professor's claims, Paul. Like I said, when you try to shut people up instead of engaging them, you lose your chance to disprove their claims.
-Aaron -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Talk about crap Date: Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:52 am Size: 3K To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> I have to agree with Don on this one. Yes, the "professor" has a right to profess his beliefs, but that doesn't make them credible. All Don said was that this man's premise was bullshit. And bullshit is obviously what he's spreading. Why waste anyone's time with that? How can anyone believe for even a moment that an event witnessed by thousands and seen on live television didn't take place? By granting someone the status of professor, it's implied that the person has useful knowledge to impart. This man obviously doesn't. Furthermore, while a university may be considered a place of higher learning. undergratuate courses are largely a teaching environment. To think that seventeen year olds aren't impressionable is nieve. Paul -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On 7/25/06, Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Which part do you consider bullshit? What the man proposes to teach, > > or the university defending his right to teach it? Personally, I > > think freedom of speech must encompass ideas that the mainstream > > considers repugnant. > > Right you are, Bob! > > For one thing, at university, they call them "professors" for a > reason. To profess is merely to affirm a belief. At a post-secondary > level, the assumption is that students are at a level that they can > research the professors affirmations and form their own opinions as to > whether the professor is right or wrong. > > Up to the end of high school we have "teachers". To teach is to > impart knowledge. The distinction between teachers and professors is > an important one. > > This guy in Wisconson may (or may not be) a nutbar, but I defend his > right to lecture whatever he wants. Moreso, I defend his university's > right to pay him and have him lecture there. The fact that tax > dollars go to that university does not give the taxpayers or the > legislature the right to demand that the guy gets sacked. At most, it > gives them the right to pull those tax dollars out of the place, but > then 90% or more of the students will be harmed due to (what's > portrayed as) the rantings of this loonie. > > The other thing, of course, is that perhaps, just perhaps, if someone > actually sat in on this guy's course and read the materials, he might > have a few accurate things to say, and he might have evidence to back > up his assertions. Stranger things have happened. It's hard to judge > based on a newspaper article - and a biased one, at that. > > I've got to admit, I always wondered how it is that the Pentagon isn't > one of the best defended buildings in the world, with all the latest > detection devices and radar and defences. I've always thought it a > bit strange that something as complex and difficult to pilot as a > modern airliner, flown by a rank amateur, managed to get through those > defences and score a direct hit. I'm not saying this guy's right, but > it makes one wonder. > > cheers, > frank > > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
