Hey, I agree 100% that the final image is what counts.  A higher pixel count 
producing a less desirable image is not good.

What evidence is their out there, however that any of the *latest* 
generation of DSLR's has a serious noise problem?

Tom C.

"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or 
numbered."




>From: "Aaron Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
>Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother?
>Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:26:00 -0400
>
>Not at higher ISOs, Tom.
>
>It's part of why I'm not super-interested in the 10MP body, though I'll 
>certainly give it a try to see for myself how the images look.
>
>But ultimately you've skipped my point -- that the final image is more 
>important than any number attached to it.
>
>Anyways, it's moot -- demand for both new bodies is quite strong, despite 
>your belief that no one wants one.  ;)
>
>-Aaron
>
>-----Original Message-----
>
>From:  "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subj:  Re: K110D - Why bother?
>Date:  Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:12 pm
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>To:  pdml@pdml.net
>
>I guess you're saying all those existing DSLR's with a bigger pixel count
>don't produce equal if not better images???  I suppose when Pentax releases
>higher MP DSLR's your argument will no longer be valid?
>
>Everyone start hunkering down in the bunkers.  I can see another Pentax
>jihad starting. :-)
>
>
>Tom C.
>
>"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or
>numbered."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Aaron Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
> >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
> >Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother?
> >Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20:56:00 -0400
> >
> >Who cares about the number of megapixels?  As many have pointed out, a
> >higher pixel count in the same physical space often yields more noise -- 
>so
> >who cares if there are more pixels if the printed image quality suffers?
> >
> >Oh, sure, advertising buzzwords, etc etc.  Would you rather have a better
> >picture or a bigger number?
> >
> >-Aaron
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >
> >From:  "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subj:  Re: K110D - Why bother?
> >Date:  Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:18 pm
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> >
> >Your last interrogative (Why not sell it?) was more or less where I was
> >coming from.  Will it sell *that* well? I'm not doubting the results from 
>a
> >6MP camera obviously as that's what we have at the moment.
> >
> >As you correctly stated, the marketing bar is raised. Currently Nikon and
> >Pentax are the only mfrs. actively selling a 6MP DSLR.  To have 
>engineered
> >and fabricated a *new* 6MP DSLR, when by all accounts 6MP is for the most
> >part (from my perception) considered passe, seems kind of foolish.
> >
> >As a casual shopper with no brand allegiance and not worrying about 
>money,
> >it would instantly jump out at me that Canon sells 8 & 12 MP cameras, 
>while
> >Pentax is selling 6 and 10MP cameras.
> >
> >I'm not trying to start an argument, just stating my opinion that quite
> >soon, if not already, new 6MP DSLR's will be viewed as a low-end 
>beginner's
> >camera, regardless of picture quality. Perception is often everything in
> >the
> >marketplace.
> >
> >
> >Tom C.
> >
> >"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or
> >numbered."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
> > >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
> > >Subject: Re: K110D - Why bother?
> > >Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 16:37:03 -0700
> > >
> > >On Aug 10, 2006, at 4:02 PM, Tom C wrote:
> > >
> > > > I was questioning the wisdom of continuing with any 6MP DSLR body
> > > > when the
> > > > bar has been raised in entry level DSLRs for some time now.
> > >
> > >Which bar? Just because 8 and 10 Mpixel cameras are out there at
> > >similar pricing doesn't mean that they do any better on image
> > >quality. The entry-level DSLR market generally isn't concerned with
> > >making a 13x19 and larger presentation prints, the difference in
> > >ultimate resolution is barely noticeable at 8x12 and 11x17 inch print
> > >sizes.
> > >
> > >Perhaps you mean the marketing bar.
> > >
> > >Regardless, the Pentax 6Mpixel SLRs return superb results. I'm
> > >finishing up another exhibit's batch of 11x14s right now and the
> > >quality is delightful. As long as the sensor is available, it's
> > >proven technology that will make excellent photographs. As time goes
> > >on, they'll be available for lower and lower prices. Why kill a good
> > >thing?
> > >
> > >Far as I can tell from reports, the K110D is an advance on the DL
> > >models in having faster AF, improved JPEG rendering out of the
> > >camera, and commonality of parts with the K100D. Why not sell it?
> > >
> > >Godfrey
> > >
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