B&H never removed them as far as I know. I've always seen them offered on their site. Paul On Dec 8, 2006, at 9:13 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
> Only supposition, but from logical inference. The *ist-D was > unavailable from any source for months maybe even as long as a year. > Even B&H had removed it from their web site a while back. Now > suddenly > they are available, at bargain prices. It doesn't take much brain > power > to realize that Pentax has most probably offered them to retailers > at a > huge discount before they're stuck with the lot of them. > > J. C. O'Connell wrote: >> You do lose money if you buy too many >> to get a good price and the market then >> goes south due to better cheaper models >> before you have sold them all. This happens >> all the time in technology based retail... >> I dont think you have any real basis to >> KNOW that they are NOT losing money >> on these. I have a hunch they are. To say >> they put these kits together fairly cheaply >> could be quite wrong... >> jco >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of >> P. J. Alling >> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 4:12 AM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: *istD kits down to $499 New >> >> >> Because I worked in Retail John, you don't make money by loosing >> money >> on each sale and making it up on volume. >> >> J. C. O'Connell wrote: >> >>> I still dont see why you think this seller >>> got/gets the NEW *istD bodies cheap. They may be >>> losing their ass on them. I dont know, >>> but how do you? >>> jco >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >>> Of P. J. Alling >>> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 4:30 PM >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> Subject: Re: *istD kits down to $499 New >>> >>> >>> Think computers, the *ist-D is a discontinued computer. It's >>> replacement is available now. It's being dumped before another >>> generation makes it unsaleable. The 28-80 doesn't have a sterling >>> reputation and they were made to be sold with the *ist film cameras. >>> I'll bet Pentax has a ton of them, for which there is not much >>> demand. >>> >> >> >>> Most film users can afford cameras with higher perceived value >>> most of >>> >> >> >>> which can use or need to use an aperture ring. The lens is an >>> orphan. >>> >> >> >>> Once again it's being dumped before it becomes unsaleable. This is >>> >> just >> >>> the beginning of the price slide. B&H photo is still selling the >>> *ist-D >>> >>> for 799 without lens. But look to see much deeper discounting real >>> soon. Face it with an APS sensor 28-80 is not a very popular focal >>> length. >>> 18-50 or so is. >>> >>> J. C. O'Connell wrote: >>> >>> >>>> High price? Wasnt the istD originally >>>> over $1000 for just the body? This is >>>> about $450 for a new *istD body and >>>> about $50 for all the rest including the >>>> FAJ lens by my estimate.....How do you >>>> know they got them (the bodies) cheap? >>>> jco >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of P. J. Alling >>>> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 3:29 PM >>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> Subject: Re: *istD kits down to $499 New >>>> >>>> >>>> Nope, not wide at all, (like 43mm on a FF film camera), and the FAJ >>>> is FF. They're unloading a kit they put together fairly cheaply >>>> at a >>>> >> >> >>>> relatively high price. >>>> >>>> J. C. O'Connell wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160060811759 >>>>> >>>>> Seems like they are trying to unload these >>>>> older leftover models now..... >>>>> >>>>> How about that kit lens : Pentax SMC FAJ 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 >>>>> Autofocus >>>>> >> >> >>>>> Zoom Lens? Is that a APS or FF lens? Curious be because 28 isnt >>>>> very >>>>> >> >> >>>>> wide on APS now is it? >>>>> >>>>> jco >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > -- > Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. > --Albert Einstein > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
