I still say that you may be wrong and the seller is the one dumping them, not Pentax. There is no evidence to support that Pentax is NOW offering these models to retailers way way below original cost, as Pentax may have sold them all off a long time ago. Sure the seller is pairing it with a cheapo lens, but I am not so sure that they are getting the bodies NOW or ever so cheap they can be selling them at a "relatively high price" that they "put together cheaply" like you claimed. jco
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 9:20 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: *istD kits down to $499 New My point, which seems to be lost on everyone, is that Pentax is dumping the D, and that unfortunate lens, at a loss to minimize their losses. The store is probably not losing money, or they would have walked away from the deal. Adam Maas wrote: > Yes, but you lose less money buy dumping stock that cannot be sold > above cost, as keeping it in inventory costs you money (And space to > stock profitable products). > > -Adam > > > > P. J. Alling wrote: > >> Because I worked in Retail John, you don't make money by loosing >> money >> on each sale and making it up on volume. >> >> J. C. O'Connell wrote: >> >> >>> I still dont see why you think this seller >>> got/gets the NEW *istD bodies cheap. They may be >>> losing their ass on them. I dont know, >>> but how do you? >>> jco >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >>> Of P. J. Alling >>> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 4:30 PM >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> Subject: Re: *istD kits down to $499 New >>> >>> >>> Think computers, the *ist-D is a discontinued computer. It's >>> replacement is available now. It's being dumped before another >>> generation makes it unsaleable. The 28-80 doesn't have a sterling >>> reputation and they were made to be sold with the *ist film cameras. >>> I'll bet Pentax has a ton of them, for which there is not much demand. >>> Most film users can afford cameras with higher perceived value most of >>> which can use or need to use an aperture ring. The lens is an orphan. >>> Once again it's being dumped before it becomes unsaleable. This is just >>> >>> the beginning of the price slide. B&H photo is still selling the >>> *ist-D >>> >>> for 799 without lens. But look to see much deeper discounting real >>> soon. Face it with an APS sensor 28-80 is not a very popular focal >>> length. >>> 18-50 or so is. >>> >>> J. C. O'Connell wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> High price? Wasnt the istD originally >>>> over $1000 for just the body? This is >>>> about $450 for a new *istD body and >>>> about $50 for all the rest including the >>>> FAJ lens by my estimate.....How do you >>>> know they got them (the bodies) cheap? >>>> jco >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of P. J. Alling >>>> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 3:29 PM >>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> Subject: Re: *istD kits down to $499 New >>>> >>>> >>>> Nope, not wide at all, (like 43mm on a FF film camera), and the FAJ >>>> is FF. They're unloading a kit they put together fairly cheaply at >>>> a relatively high price. >>>> >>>> J. C. O'Connell wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160060811759 >>>>> >>>>> Seems like they are trying to unload these >>>>> older leftover models now..... >>>>> >>>>> How about that kit lens : Pentax SMC FAJ 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 >>>>> Autofocus Zoom Lens? Is that a APS or FF lens? Curious be because >>>>> 28 isnt very wide on APS now is it? >>>>> >>>>> jco >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
