My point, which seems to be lost on everyone, is that Pentax is dumping 
the D, and that unfortunate lens, at a loss to minimize their losses.  
The store is probably not losing money, or they would have walked away 
from the deal.

Adam Maas wrote:
> Yes, but you lose less money buy dumping stock that cannot be sold above 
> cost, as keeping it in inventory costs you money (And space to stock 
> profitable products).
>
> -Adam
>
>
>
> P. J. Alling wrote:
>   
>> Because I worked in Retail John, you don't make money by loosing money 
>> on each sale and making it up on volume.
>>
>> J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> I still dont see why you think this seller
>>> got/gets the NEW *istD bodies cheap. They may be
>>> losing their ass on them. I dont know,
>>> but how do you?
>>> jco
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>>> P. J. Alling
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 4:30 PM
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>> Subject: Re: *istD kits down to $499 New
>>>
>>>
>>> Think computers, the *ist-D is a discontinued computer.  It's 
>>> replacement is available now.  It's being dumped before another 
>>> generation  makes it unsaleable.  The 28-80 doesn't have a sterling 
>>> reputation and they were made to be sold with the *ist film cameras.  
>>> I'll bet Pentax has a ton of them, for which there is not much demand.  
>>> Most film users can afford cameras with higher perceived value most of 
>>> which can use or need to use an aperture ring.  The lens is an orphan.  
>>> Once again it's being dumped before it becomes unsaleable.  This is just
>>>
>>> the beginning of the price slide.  B&H photo is still selling the *ist-D
>>>
>>> for 799 without lens.  But look to see much deeper discounting real
>>> soon. Face it with an APS sensor 28-80 is not a very popular focal
>>> length.  
>>> 18-50 or so is.
>>>
>>> J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>>       
>>>> High price? Wasnt the istD originally
>>>> over $1000 for just the body? This is
>>>> about $450 for a new *istD body and
>>>> about $50 for all the rest including the
>>>> FAJ lens by my estimate.....How do you
>>>> know they got them (the bodies) cheap?
>>>> jco
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
>>>> Of P. J. Alling
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 3:29 PM
>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>>> Subject: Re: *istD kits down to $499 New
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nope, not wide at all, (like 43mm on a FF film camera), and the FAJ is
>>>> FF.  They're unloading a kit they put together fairly cheaply at a 
>>>> relatively high price.
>>>>
>>>> J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>    
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160060811759
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems like they are trying to unload these
>>>>> older leftover models now.....
>>>>>
>>>>> How about that kit lens : Pentax SMC FAJ 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Autofocus
>>>>> Zoom Lens? Is that a APS or FF lens? Curious be because 28 isnt very 
>>>>> wide on APS now is it?
>>>>>
>>>>> jco
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>    
>>>>>      
>>>>>           
>>>>  
>>>>    
>>>>         
>>>  
>>>       
>>
>>     
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