Great idea! What would stop them from throwing in a hand grenade instead, or some gas? Sure, the camps would have been emptier.
DagT Den 10. jan. 2007 kl. 21.48 skrev Bob Sullivan: > I've heard that Boris's Russian countryman, Alexander Solzenitzen, > thought the gulags would have been a lot emptier in their day if the > secret police were uncertain which of their middle of the night raids > would have been met with a loaded gun. > Regards, Bob S. > > On 1/10/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Well my point (even though I'm not anti-gun) is that it's better >> for no one >> to be armed than anybody to be armed. That's what logic dictates >> to me. >> >> Rather than fighting violence with violence, find a way to stop the >> violence. That's also logical. >> >> Tom C. >> >> >>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> >>> Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence >>> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:34:22 -0500 >>> >>> There is a matter of proportion however nuclear weapons are more the >>> province of governments. A single person with a gun is unlikely >>> to kill >>> a lot of people before they're stopped, (by my definition of a lot >>> anyway). A government with an army and a lot of guns, or a single >>> nuclear weapon can kill a whole lot of people. For that reason >>> alone I >>> believe logic dictates tis better for individuals to be armed and >>> governments to be disarmed. >>> >>> Tom C wrote: >>>> Guns kill just like nuclear weapons kill. In fact guns have >>>> killed more >>>> people than nuclear weapons... so far. >>>> >>>> In retrospect, *probably* both inventions were a bad idea. They >>>> have >>> both >>>> led to untold injury, death, and suffering. Their purpose is >>>> largely, >>> to >>>> kill, unlike other inventions which may endanger life. >>>> >>>> Am I anti-gun? No. Just making a point. Sure this is >>>> simplistic, but >>> the >>>> truth often is. >>>> >>>> Tom C. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> >>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> >>>>> Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence >>>>> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 22:35:12 -0500 >>>>> >>>>> Sorry, I must disagree. An armed victim is more likely to defend >>>>> herself than a disarmed victim. To paraphrase a member of the >>>>> English >>>>> House of Lords in the losing battle against the handgun ban in GB. >>>>> 'Firearms are used to defend the weak against the strong. To >>>>> restrict >>>>> their use by citizens is to deny them the right to self defense. >>>>> Governments may have the power to do that, but should not have the >>>>> right.' Apparently the British Government no longer believes >>>>> in the >>>>> Citizens right of self defense. Do you? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> William Robb wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hand guns don't cause crime, if that were true once Great >>>>>>> Britain >>>>>>> >>>>> banned >>>>> >>>>>>> all hand guns, (and made shotgun ownership much more difficult), >>>>>>> >>>>> violent >>>>> >>>>>>> crime would have been eliminated, in fact it increased, (violent >>> crime >>>>>>> rates in England are now higher than in the US). I doubt that >>>>>>> >>>>> smuggling >>>>> >>>>>>> firearms is the cause of violent crime in Canada, it's a >>>>>>> symptom of >>>>>>> something else. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Straw man argument, Peter. >>>>>> Gun crimes are more likely to end up with the victim being more >>>>>> >>>>> seriously >>>>> >>>>>> hurt or dead than other types of weapons crimes, and can be >>>>>> used at >>>>>> >>>>> range >>>>> >>>>>> where the victim has less chance of self defence. >>>>>> >>>>>> William Robb >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. >>>>> -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>> PDML@pdml.net >>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. >>> -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
