You will see no difference in a full frame 8x10 print <grin>. Of course 
if you routinely crop your images or do large prints...

Brendan MacRae wrote:
> --- John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 08:08:30PM -0700, Brendan
>> MacRae wrote:
>>> --- John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 09:18:02PM -0400,
>> Christian
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Brendan MacRae wrote:
>>>>>> --- John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For most people, the (significant) extra
>> cost
>>>> of the
>>>>>>> larger
>>>>>>> sensor just isn't worth it.
>>>>>> For most people, yes. For most serious
>>>>>> photographers...that may be another story.
>>>>> PJs, sports guys and, yes, nature pros use
>> 1DmkIIs
>>>> with a 1.3x "crop"
>>>>> They seem pretty serious....
>>>> Not to mention all those guys out there with
>> Nikons
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> I guess we poor Pentax users can't be "serious"
>>>> photographers, either.
>>>>
>>>> And all the time I thought it was the
>> photographer,
>>>> not the gear ...
>>>>
>>> You know, these kinds of comments are BS.
>>>
>>> Where do you get off? Point me to where I ever
>> made
>>> this suggestion. You said most people wouldn't opt
>> to
>>> spend the significant extra dough for a FF camera.
>> You
>>> didn't specify who these "most people" are. I
>> assumed
>>> you meant photographers of one kind or another. I
>> only
>>> suggested that the more serious the photographer
>> the
>>> more likely that person would opt for better gear.
>> Precisely.  You just plain assume that "better"
>> means
>> "larger sensor".  That's the viewpoint that's full
>> of BS.
> 
> First of all, from what I've seen, larger sensors
> produce better images. Call it BS if you want, but why
> on earth would a company make a camera with a larger
> sensor if there was no noticeable increase in image
> quality. Oh, and then charge three times as much for
> it!
> 
> Must be a lot of suckers out there...
> 
>> You (although not only you) seem to think that a K1D
>> (if one ever shows up) is somehow an inferior
>> product
>> if it doesn't have a 36x24 sensor.
>>
> 
> Again, it's obvious you can type, but can you read?
> Where did I say any such thing? My original post said
> that I thought it was a mistake if Pentax didn't
> concurrently work on a larger sensor for it's DSLR's
> with the R&D for the 645D. My point being that there
> would be MUCH more interest in the former over the
> latter.
> 
> Apparently Pentax agrees with me since at least
> they've killed the 645D. And although you have no
> evidence to support your contention that a FF DSLR
> isn't what "most people" want (apologies to Cotty), I
> want one, I feel it would be a big step up for Pentax,
> it could possibly even lure away Nikon and Canon
> shooters (something Pentax has done very rarely) and
> it would most likely produce better images than
> anything in the current lineup.
> 
> Now, if the K1D had a mere 1.2 or 1.3 crop...I'd be
> interested. Would this be inferior to a FF camera.
> Depends. In Canon's example some folks like the Mark
> IIn more than the 5D. But your saying that I called
> anything other than a FF DSLR inferior is BS. I never
> said it. I merely said I wouldn't buy another APS-C
> sensor camera and would love a FF Pentax.
> 
> And for the future, if you're going to comment on my
> posts, insert your comments into my originals. That
> might help you to stick to the subject at hand and
> stop you from pretending later that I said things I
> never said.
> 
> Or better yet, you can just not respond at all.
> 
> -Brendan
> 
> 
> 
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