I looked at one of the 20-35/2.8s and found that the sharpness wasn't as good as the 20-35/3.5-4.5 I already had. Tests seem to bear this out although in most cases it might not show up on film as much. Made me decide to keep my slower version till I could afford a Sigma 17-35/2.8-4 instead. Kent Gittings
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bruce Dayton Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 4:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Only using my prime lenses - I promise Dave, Since you have one of the lenses I was looking at, I would be curious how you feel about the ATX 20-35 f2.8. How is the close focusing, distortion and flare. My ATX 28-70 Pro II does *not* focus close and I really have to watch the flare. I was trying to compare the Tokina to the Pentax. Thanks for your input. Bruce Dayton ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Hatfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 12:52 PM Subject: RE: Only using my prime lenses - I promise > Bruce, > > I think it's great that in this, like in most things in life, people can say > the same thing while approaching it from totally different angles (kind of > like photography, huh?). If you learn the basics - learn to "see"; learn to > "think"; learn to "plan"; be ready for the unexpected; etc. - then equipment > generally becomes inconsequential apart from what you're comfortable with. > I've used zooms all my photographic life (25+ years) even when they were > terrible! I've grown accustomed to their feel and style. > > Who knows, some day I might pick up that LX I was talking about a few days > back, get a good prime and start learning all over! > > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Bruce Dayton > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 2:10 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Only using my prime lenses - I promise > > Dave, > > I'm not arguing your points at all. I am not concerned about the optical > quality specifically. It has more to do with me. Years ago, I moved from a > Practica screw mount match needle body to a Canon A-1 (quite a jump). While > the body was quite capable, I found that it wasn't my style. I almost quit > taking pictures. I finally sold it and got an Olympus OM-1 with 50mm lens. > I think the point has more to do with usage and style rather than the > ability of a zoom or prime to produce a great image. I'm with Shel where I > find that I personally work better with a prime than a zoom. Not that I > couldn't do it with a zoom, but more that I enjoy more the prime and I feel > that *I* - not the lens - takes a better picture. > > With all of that, as I mentioned, there are many good cases for a zoom. I > mentioned a few. Probably more of a style kind of thing. I have the same > Tokina ATX-pro 28-70 f2.6-2.8 and find the optics and build good, but quite > flare prone. It balances very nicely on the MZ-S with battery grip. > > Bruce Dayton > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Hatfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 11:40 AM > Subject: RE: Only using my prime lenses - I promise > > > > I don't know, Bruce (et. al.). Seems to me that zooms are finding their > own > > spot in today's photographic world. Years ago the argument for using > primes > > centered on the fact that they were generally a higher quality lens that > > what you could find in even the highest priced zooms. I don't believe > that > > to be the case anymore. Today's technology and production have brought > zoom > > quality to a point that, if placed side by side, few if any could pick out > > shots made with primes as opposed to those made with zooms even at the > > highest magnification. > > > > Zooms are a great tool. They allow me to compose, shoot and recompose at > a > > moments notice without having to waste time finding just the right spot to > > shoot from (assuming, of course, that my next shot will be from the same > > angle). The creative process still resides with me. It's only the > > equipment that is different. I still have to determine the best angle, > > framing, exposure, etc. for each shot whether I use a zoom or a prime. If > I > > use a good quality zoom then the quality of the shot will come directly > back > > to my capacity as a photographer, not to the nature of the lens. > > > > I currently carry four lenses in my bag > the Tokina ATX-pro 28-70 > f2.6-2.8 > > (my "normal" lens), a Tokina ATX-pro 20-35 f2.8, a Tokina ATX-pro 80-200 > > f2.8 and the Sigma 105 EX f2.8 macro (my only non-zoom) used primarily for > > macro shots since it produces 1:1 without attachments. The quality of > these > > lenses easily matches even the best primes and none of them releases me > from > > having to think about how I'm composing my shot. They simply allow me the > > ease of altering that composition without having to dig in my bag so > often. > > > > Zooms? I love 'em!! > > > > Dave Hatfield > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. 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