I think we did get a bit intemerate, but I'm not mad at Peter either. WW did go over the top (The irony is I suspect my politics are a lot closer to Peter's than William's)
-Adam P. J. Alling wrote: > Well yes it was a pissing match. But I'm not mad a Adam because he > wouldn't back down. In fact I learned a few things from him. I just > don't agree that they're the whole reason for the high ISO improvements. > WW has managed to piss me off enough that he's back in my Kill file with > Dobo, Rubinstine(sp), (just in case they ever raise their heads again, > and a couple of others who shall remain nameless, because I can't > refrain from arguing with them, not because they're bad people). William > is mostly just nasty, and revels in it. > > David Savage wrote: >> The thing is Peter you and Adam, from my point of view, are both >> arguing the same thing. You say for better noise performance you need >> a bigger sensor site (and eventually a larger sensor). We all agree >> with this. >> >> Adam's saying the sensor manufacturers are improving their techniques >> to increase the sensor site size within the limits of the APS-C form >> factor. >> >> You're both going around and around stating the same thing, getting >> your noses out of joint & turning the discussion into a pissing match. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Dave >> >> On 10/15/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Sorry William but you seem to like baiting people. You offer nothing to >>> the argument so go away. Adam seems to think I don't understand how it >>> works. While I do. The math tells it all. He seems to think that you can >>> improve hardware beyond physical laws. My point is that you can trick >>> those laws but you can't get something for nothing. It's a legitimate >>> argument. You on the other hand ofter betray your ignorance, and have >>> complete disdain for people who don't agree with you. You often can't >>> take a joke, or even realize one has been made.. You can't refrain from >>> making political comments on the list then try to savage those who >>> respond. To think I actually sort of liked you, I need to get my head >>> examined. You and JCO should get a Condo together. >>> >>> William Robb wrote: >>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Adam Maas" >>>> Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> High ISO noise performance is an area where most of the market has >>>>> improved while adding MP. Since there are hard, physical, limits on how >>>>> much light will hit a sensor site of theoretical max size for the >>>>> resolution and sensor size, this improvement indicates that we haven't >>>>> hit the actual physical limits of sensor design. We probably have hit >>>>> the current max for current sensor production technology, but that's not >>>>> to say that the production technology won't improve. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> This is starting to sound like a JCO hijacked thread. Adam, it's futile to >>>> argue with these toothless old republicans, they will never admit to their >>>> ignorance. >>>> >>>> William Robb >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> Remember, it's pillage then burn. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >>> >> > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
