On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 04:16:17PM +0100, mike wilson scripsit:
> ---- Graydon <o...@uniserve.com> wrote: 
[gunch]
> > Because the screwdriver is there on the adapter, but there's nothing in
> > the lens to adjust.  I don't want the camera body trying to turn
> > something it can't to find out if anything adjusts.
> > 
> > And yes I could set the camera body to MF before mounting the lens, but
> > forgetting should not have dire mechanical consequences.
> 
> It doesn't.  I use M series lenses all the time on my DL2, leaving AF on so 
> that I can use focus confrim and trap focus.  Been doing that for just over 
> three years and for another mumblemumble years with my Z1-p.  I cannot see 
> any marks on my lens mounts at all.

With the Adaptall 2 adaptor, there's a lens, and then a mount-specific
adaptor.  If the lens is pure MF, and the adaptor -- because that's what
one can get off ebay -- supports auto-focus, the camera has absolutely
no way to tell that the screw drive isn't connected to anything.

That's the unusual edge case.  I don't imagine the problem would arise
with a Pentax M lens.

> > > > The other part of it is that the camera really, really needs to
> > > > know the focal length to auto-focus accurately.
> > > > 
> > > > -- Graydon, who has tried to use focus confirm on the 500 while
> > > > the camera still thought it was 800.
> > > 
> > > Not by my understanding of how AF systems work.  Is there
> > > something different in the K10/20 systems? What they generally do
> > > need is a decent amount of light.
> > 
> > I think it's connected to the shake reduction.
> > 
> > So far as I can tell in the case of the K20D, autofocus and shake
> > reduction are really one combined system with different sensor
> > inputs and mechanical parts, but which meet up in the electronic
> > controls.
> 
> I don't see how the AF system would need to know the FL of a lens to
> work.  It just measures contrast and stops everything when it is
> highest.

AF doesn't, but the shake reduction does, and the autofocus and the
shake reduction talk to each other.

I don't know why, or how; I do know the K20D firmware upgrade that was
supposed to improve anti-shake increased autofocus speed.

-- Graydon

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