Frank,
Another comment on Emergency Room treatment:
My 25 year old daughter got a 2nd medication for a sinus infection.
She had an adverse reaction, puffy face, rash, and trouble breathing.
Living in downtown Chicago, she went to the nearby Northwestern Univ. ER.
Lynn and I met her there for 4 hours.  That was Friday night.
She had difficulties breathing again Saturday night and another ER trip,
and again Sunday night with multiple hours in the ER.
3 ER trips and the bill was $10,000, perhaps less after insurance is involved.
Regards,  Bob S.


On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 5:16 PM, frank theriault
<knarftheria...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Ken Waller <kwal...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>
>> Yep. That's why in Detroit we have instances of the citizens of Windsor (you
>> know the city south of Detroit)
>> coming over to the states for their medical treatments, instead of waiting
>> for it in Ca na da.
>
> I didn't bother telling the list, because it was rather
> inconsequential, but about a month ago, I was sitting, got up quickly,
> had that "head rush" and (for the first time in my life) fainted.  As
> I'd heard that every loss of consciousness requires a doctor visit, I
> went to the nearest emergency ward.
>
> Now, I have to admit, I was there a long time.  It was one of
> Toronto's largest trauma centres (Sunnybrooke, for you locals) at
> evening rush hour, and there were several serious automobile collision
> victims that needed help more than me.  All in all, it was a 10 hour
> visit, but I realize that my condition put me at the bottom of the
> triage list.
>
> However, in that ten hours I got great treatment.  Before seeing a
> doctor, nurses took blood, checked blood pressure/pulse and gave me a
> cardiogram.  The doctor finally saw me and said that in a way it was
> good that I was there for that length of time, because he could give
> me ~another~ cardiogram to make sure there was no change (out of an
> abundance of caution).  There was also a specific blood test that he
> wanted to see that the nurses didn't do, so I got a second session of
> bloodwork.
>
> The doctor saw me two or three times, and appeared concerned yet calming.
>
> After it all, he said that all tests were fine, and that (as he said)
> gravity just got the best of me that day.  A head rush gone too far,
> nothing more.  He said that I'd done the right thing by having it
> checked and apologized for the long wait (as several nurses did
> earlier).
>
> Can you imagine how much that would have all cost me had I paid for
> it?  Or if my insurance paid?  Would they have authorized all those
> duplicate tests?
>
> And that was at one of Toronto's top hospitals - yes, I got to choose
> the hospital I went to, no insurance company to give me a list of
> "approved" hospitals.
>
> So, I'll take the wait to get top treatment with nothing
> out-of-pocket, thank you very much.
>
> BTW, Ken, there are many anecdotal stories (as yours was) of Detroit
> citizens crossing the border into Canada to try to get treatment here,
> as they have no coverage in the US.  "Borrow" a Canadian's card and
> hope you don't get caught and charged with fraud - that's how
> desperate some uninsured Americans are.
>
> And, to top it off (on a personal note), my heartbeat came in a 57
> bpm.  Not quite Lance's resting heartbeat of 32, but pretty good for
> an old guy...
>
> ;-)
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
>
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