My Macbook, which is only about a year old, has an easily replaceable battery 
that will usually give me abut five hours of computing time. Enough for a 
flight to California. Works for me.
Paul
On Sep 5, 2010, at 4:52 PM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote:

> Damn, out of popcorn. Hang on while I run to the kitchen. 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Maas <a...@mawz.ca>
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> Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 16:47:22 
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> On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 4:12 PM, steve harley <p...@paper-ape.com> wrote:
>> On 2010-09-05 10:56 , Adam Maas wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm talking Dell, HP, Toshiba and Lenovo here. Similar quality
>>> components, sometimes better (HP for example uses Asus MB's on their
>>> desktops, better quality boards than the Mac desktop boards aside from
>>> the Mac Pro's). The components used in the non-Pro Mac's are nothing
>>> special and some parts (desktop PSU's in particular) are inferior to
>>> the standardized designs used in the PC world.
>> 
>> avoiding the general point, some high points on Mac components are batteries
>> in current MacBooks and MacBooks Pro, and displays on current iMacs; also
>> worth mentioning that the current Mini has an extremely low power draw
> 
> Actually, the Batteries are a current low point. Good life at the cost
> of a shop-run to replace. The iMac displays are good. The Mini's power
> draw is nothing special, any laptop-based SFF PC will have similar
> draw (that's how the Mini achieves it) and the Mini gives up a LOT of
> performance to get the low power draw. Most SFF PC's are based on
> desktop hardware and have significantly greater performance,
> especially in terms of video and HDD performance.
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Note Macs are poor hosts for OS's other than OS X or
>>> 
>>> Windows as well
>> 
>> how so? do you mean that virtualized OSs run more slowly, or what? i
>> certainly get what i need running Win2000, XP & 7 plus various Ubuntu and
>> CentOS VMs, so for my modest purposes i don't understand what you might mean
>> by "poor host"
>> 
> 
> Virtualization is fine, booting natively not so much and getting those
> OS's to boot on EFI-based systems can be a real pain.
> 
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