On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:17 PM, paul stenquist <pnstenqu...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I agree. Cheese is several steps removed from the animal. And cows, goats and > water buffalo are more than willing to give up their milk. And what about > cheese made from human breast milk? Can vegans consume that? If not, can a > vegan child breast feed? So many questions, so few answers. But I know that > while I could probably give up meat if someone held a gun to my head, I would > never sacrifice cheese. Pull the trigger, and put me out of my misery. ++++++++++++++++++ I really didn't mean to get into this discussion, but I'll answer a few of your points: I can't speak for all vegans, but for me it's an issue of consent and exploitation. We don't ask cows, goats, etc. if they're okay with us taking their milk, and if they're answering, we can't tell. We just take it. whether they like it or not. "Willing to give up their milk"? What makes you say that? We keep them in a permanent state of artificial pregnancy so they never "dry up". That can't be much fun. Human mothers who breast feed consent to the procedure. If they don't, they buy formula. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.