On Apr 19, 2011, at 4:50 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 7:03 PM, John Coyle <jco...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>> Yes, people do buy expensive and/or sophisticated cameras without any 
>> knowledge of
>> photography, or of what the camera can do.  I  once encountered the titled 
>> heir to a
>> Belgian beer empire who owned a Leica - probably an M3, given the era, who 
>> complained it
>> wasn't working properly and took to it with a nail file.  Turned out it was 
>> something
>> really simple he'd no knowledge of - unfortunately I no longer remember what 
>> it was!
> 
> There are a lot of people at the horse shows now, and i suppose other
> sport events, that do not rely on me for photos anymore but have
> bought them self's the latest Canon and Nikon Dslr's.
> They put them in auto mode and shoot away.
> They eventually come up and ask me why my pictures are clear and in
> focus and theirs are not.

And you said
"Because I know how to take clear photographs, which is why it's worth the 
money to buy them from me."



> They had no idea they could change settings. Either the sales person
> neglected, or they just did not RTFM.
> 
> I suspect the later.
> 
> Dave
>> 
>> 
>> John Coyle
>> Brisbane, Australia
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of 
>> Larry Colen
>> Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2011 2:59 AM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: Green mode, a detail I'd forgotten
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 19, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>> 
>>> It's always been a question mark to me ... Why does a camera costing
>>> $1500+ need a "green mode"? Does Pentax (or anyone else) really expect
>>> newbies to spend $1500 for a camera body?
>> 
>> I'm willing to bet that people like that even buy Leicas. Level of 
>> experience or knowledge
>> has nothing to do with how much someone spends on something.  Look at how 
>> long sportscars
>> have been available with automatic transmissions, even before the modern 
>> ones that
>> arguably can out perform human shifting.
>> 
>>> And for those people to
>>> tweak the settings inappropriately enough that a special mode is
>>> needed so they can get a passible photograph?
>> 
>> How about Steve Wozniak and his stunt in a Beech Bonanza, which has a lot to 
>> do with why
>> Scotts Valley has a K-mart  and not an airstrip.
>> 
>> 
>>> Or even know that they
>>> need to switch to "green mode" if they know little enough to set the
>>> camera so inappropriately?
>>> 
>>> Seems kinda ridiculous. If I hand my camera to someone I know isn't a
>>> sophisticated user, I set it up for them and tell them what to go to
>>> get a good photograph. I don't expect the inexperienced user to know
>>> that the camera should be in "green mode."
>> 
>> I have to admit, the green mode does do a pretty good job of choosing the 
>> settings, but
>> I'd expect that file format would be the one that it should let the camera 
>> owner choose.
>> I've handed my camera to other people a few times over the years, and my 
>> quick stab at the
>> settings often failed miserably.
>> 
>>> My cameras (and the K5,
>>> etc) all have the capability to store custom user configurations that
>>> the owner can set up to do the same job if this is a frequent need.
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