I agree with you. I initially missed the "invitation' part of this scenario. Beyond providing my opinion wrt one's right to photograph people in situations where there is no reasonable expectation of privacy, I should have said no more.
One comment on what you said: everyone has the same rights to take photos in public. "Real" photographers have no more rights than anyone else. You and I, Martin Parr and grandpa with a p&s, we have the same right to photograph the world and the public around us. It ~must~ be that way. That being said, freedom of speech means that individuals have the right to express displeasure as they please. We just have to put up with that, I'm afraid. However they don't have the right to stop us or take our images or equipment away from us. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: John Sessoms <jsessoms...@nc.rr.com> Sent: December 31, 2011 12/31/11 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Fwd: Photos of Children I either missed the original message or am getting the list back to front today. Both occasionally occurs with the digests. There's A LOT of context missing here, but whoever took the photos apparently is close enough to the original Google+ poster to know who he/she is (I'm guessing she) and invite him/her to look at them. So my first reaction, in the face of total lack of any information even hinting at wrongdoing, is he/she is over-reacting A WHOLE LOT. But, I find the "however ... especially if" portion of the response very disturbing in the assumptions it makes on absolutely no evidence whatsoever that the "photographer" (assuming it was actually a photographer, and not just someone with a digital camera & Google+) must be serving up kiddie non-porn for the edification of pedophiles. What about the (REAL) photographer's right to not be hassled by every ASSHOLE in the entire universe because he wants to take a photograph of something in a public place, just because there are parents who won't properly supervise their own children? If you don't want your children photographed in public places, lock them in the basement where they belong! From: "knarftheria...@gmail.com" > That's kind of creepy. > > Not seeing the photos, I don't know if the photographer had the right to take > them. If the kids were in a public place, a place where there is no > reasonable expectation of privacy, then there's nothing legally wrong with > doing so. > > Same with publishing them. Both the photographer and Google+ would have the > right to publish them as long as their images aren't being used for a > commercial purpose. > > However just because it's legal doesn't mean it may not be in very poor > taste, especially if the gallery is one of these sick things filled with pix > of kiddies (not porn but still for the gratification of pedophile pervs). > > If it is one of those collections and the photographer refuses to remove > dad's kids then Google+ should. They own the site and they have no obligation > to allow this guy to publish anything he wants to on their site. > > Cheers, > frank > > --- Original Message --- > > From: Eric Weir <eew...@bellsouth.net> > Sent: December 30, 2011 12/30/11 > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <pdml@pdml.net> > Subject: Fwd: Photos of Children > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: "Google+ Discuss on behalf of sausagefeatures" >> <google-plus-disc...@googleproductforums.com> >> Date: December 30, 2011 5:29:15 AM EST >> To: google-plus-disc...@googleproductforums.com >> Subject: Photos of Children >> Reply-To: "Google+ Discuss on behalf of sausagefeatures" >> <google-plus-disc...@googleproductforums.com> >> >> I have been invited to view an album of photos on Google+ featuring my >> children (both under 13). I did not give permission for the photos to be >> used online (or in fact for the photos to be taken in the first place). Is >> it possible to get them removed from Google+? I have asked the owner but >> they are refusing. > As should be clear, this was posted to the Google+ discussion list. > > Am I correct in understanding that permission was not required in either > case--in taking the photos or posting them? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
