They also used to give more freebie's to retailers, (that may have changed in
the last 20 years but I doubt it).

At 12:34 PM 3/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>The way Nikon and Canon got to be recognized is by giving equipment away to
>the wire services and major news media. Then you see their "pros" using the
>equipment and say. "Wow, look all the pros are using Nikon and Canon, they
>must be the best".
>
>Information source: a former Nikon Rep who serviced the Washington, DC area
>doing just that.
>
>Ciao,
>Graywolf
>http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: Bruce Rubenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 9:24 AM
>Subject: Re: Pentax prices
>
>
> > A "pro" body, in and of itself, won't do much good for image and increased
> > sales. Witness the Maxxum 9, which hasn't changed the perception of
>Minolta as
> > being a maker of mass market/amature cameras. Contax certainly makes
>cameras
> > that some pros use, but that hasn't given them widespread name recognition
> > among non-enthusasists. The way that Nikon and Canon have gotten pros to
>use
> > their equipment is by making a suitable product and by supporting pros.
>This
> > takes a solid product, an extensive product line (lenses), good repair
> > facilities and the budget for the maker to pay for it. Even when Canon
>game out
> > with their far advanced AF they had to spend a small fortune, up front, to
>get
> > pros to switch. It's tough to get a sizeable portion of the 35mm pro
>market
> > (Minolta gave up on it). A company may be able to sell a lot more non-pro,
> > amature bodies, because they have the right name on it, but that's just
>cashing
> > in on your investment. Pentax persued the 35mm pro market the same way
>they did
> > the MF market by making a good product (LX) and letting it sell itself:
>doesn't
> > work in the 35mm market.
> > A highend "image" body, that's not widely used by pros, will be mostly
>noticed
> > by people already using that camera brand. It won't get you many new
>customers.
> > To the general public, all you need to look like a pro is a SLR, a big
>lens and
> > flash and a camera bag. I am sure that there are people with the means who
> > decide to get a camera, want the "best" and buy a $3,000 Nikon system with
> > little idea of how to use it well. I'm sure Pentax would like to sell to
>that
> > customer too: sales are sales. It takes a lot of time and money to
>establish
> > that kind of reputation.
> >
> > --- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Your post got me to thinking, however.  Could it be that the lack of a
>"pro"
> > > 35mm camera is the reason?  I don't want to get into what a "pro" camera
>is
> > > (please!), but let's face it, when we see a PJ in a media scrum on the
>news,
> > > or
> > > on the street, he/she invariably has an F5 or an EOS.  I'm sure that the
> > > public
> > > sees that as well.
> > >
> > > I think that the fact that Pentax really hasn't catered to "pros" (PJ's
>at
> > > least) since the LX has hurt Pentax immeasurably.  Or, maybe the
>converse is
> > > true:  the fact (or at least the perception) that PJ's use C**** and
>N****
> > > almost exclusively is a huge marketing coup for those two companies.
> > >
> > > As wonderful and capable a body as the MZ S is, PJ's aren't using it -
>not
> > > surprising, because I don't think they are necessarily who it is aimed
>at.
> > > But
> > > it's also not surprising that the public thinks, "Wanna look like a pro?
>I
> > > will
> > > if I buy C or N."
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