That struggle is still going on with land owners along the Mimico waterfront. A few are holding out, preventing enjoyment of our natural heritage along Lake Ontario.
Gerrit -----Original Message----- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of knarftheria...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 2:32 PM To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: PESO - Cape May beach, 10 am Yeah, the water on "mainland" Nova Scotia is pretty cold. You get used to it, so the locals say, but I never did. I'm told the beaches on the Atlantic side of Cape Breton are quite warm as the Gulfstream hits it before turning east towards Europe. I've never been to Cape Breton so have no personal experience. My little tirade was not directed toward New Jersey ~per se~ but toward the rampant privatization of what has traditionally been common areas. It's happening everywhere. I'm glad that the beaches from high water down to the water are still common areas, but if all ingress and egress is private and tightly controlled then it's rather moot isn't it? Sure you can walk along from adjoining beaches but restrictions make that more onerous and eventually all such access to those beaches from land will disappear. And that will be a great shame IMHO. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: "Daniel J. Matyola" <danmaty...@gmail.com> Sent: June 30, 2013 6/30/13 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <pdml@pdml.net> Subject: Re: PESO - Cape May beach, 10 am Of course the beaches in Nova Scotia are free. The water is so cold that they have to pay people to wade into the surf. <G> There are free beaches is Jersey, like Atlantic City, Wildwood and the federal and state parks. Many smaller towns sell beach badges as a means of paying for boardwalks, concert halls, sand restoration, beach clean-up and life guards. Th sand below the mean high water line is controlled by the state, in trust for the people. That means one can walk on any beach, along the water line. Beach badges are required for many municipal funded beaches only for sitting and sunning on the beach, and for entry through the municipal access points. There is a lot of sentiment for requiring towns that are taking state and federal money to repair Sandy damage to open their beaches to everyone, without charge. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 1:47 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com <knarftheria...@gmail.com> wrote: > Wow. Pay to use beaches? More commodification of what used to be considered common areas. > > In Nova Scotia, where my parents are from, beaches are common areas, as is access to them. Community easements have existed for hundreds of years. > > Now people from other areas (meaning other countries as well as other parts of Canada) are snatching up relatively cheap seaside land and building huge vacation houses. > > Then they put up fences and "no trespassing" signs preventing locals from using traditional pathways to the shore. I'm sure they could go to court to have these easements recognized but who can afford that? > > Another sigh (second today). > > cheers, > frank > > --- Original Message --- > > From: Rick Womer <rwomer1...@yahoo.com> > Sent: June 30, 2013 6/30/13 > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <pdml@pdml.net> > Subject: Re: PESO - Cape May beach, 10 am > > Yeah, NJ beaches are generally obnoxious. No tag, no admission; residents and guests of local hotels get tags. Fortunately we're not beach types. > > Don't know about alcoholic beverages; except that the whole town of Ocean City is still "dry". > > Rick > > > > http://photo.net/photos/RickW > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: P.J. Alling <webstertwenty...@gmail.com> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 12:47 PM > Subject: Re: PESO - Cape May beach, 10 am > > New Jersey must have some exclusive beaches if they have bouncers. Do > they also enforce a two drink minimum? > > On 6/29/2013 10:37 PM, Rick Womer wrote: >> Missing... Communits plot... hmmm... >> >> Fluoride in the water? No... >> >> Oh! The water! It's beyond the rise in the beach, but because I didn't have a "beach tag" the bouncer wouldn't let me any closer. >> >> Rick >> >> >> >> http://photo.net/photos/RickW >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: John Sessoms <jsessoms...@nc.rr.com> >> To: pdml@pdml.net >> Cc: >> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 12:20 PM >> Subject: RE: PESO - Cape May beach, 10 am >> >> From: Rick Womer >>> ...on a Tuesday morning. >>> >>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17443555&size=lg >>> >>> (K-5, DA 16-45) >>> >>> Comments appreciated! >>> >>> Rick >> ... mutter ... communist plot .... mutter mutter mutter ... >> >> Something's missing. >> >> Otherwise, I like it. a lot. >> > > > -- > There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
