Thankfully, tripod vs handheld is a pleasant break from FF hot air. :-) Zos, eyebrows are my litmus test for system sharpness. Get a well-lit headshot of somebody and examine their eyebrows. You should clearly see the individual hairs. Any time I handhold to get such a shot the eyebrows are invariably a gaussian smear. You cannot do clean retouching of such images.
I can show you a 100% crop of my model's eyebrows from the last beauty shots I took using a tripod with my K20D and DA* 50-135. Clear, sharp, detailed. I defy you to get that clarity handheld, no matter the shutter speed. BTW, I compared Gerrit's K-5 doing the same thing: there was no effective resolution difference to the K20D. I'm hoping to try a K-5IIs for this as well. I suspect it will do much better. I hope there will be a 24mpx APS-C upgrade to the K-5. 'Till then, I'm happy with the K20. On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Zos Xavius <zosxav...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't know about you, but over 1/200 I can rarely see much > difference in hand held vs tripod and I am certainly capable of sharp > pictures down to even 1/8s hand held with wide angle lenses. I have a > few 1/4s pictures that I have kept even that were very sharp. If I > have the slightest hint of camera shake, I tend not to keep the image. > That's just me though. The moire on the K-5 IIs is troubling to me. At > the apertures I shoot at, the gains in resolution would mostly be > lost. Such is life. > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Dario Bonazza > <dario.bona...@virgilio.it> wrote: >> You won't see evidence of the K-5IIs improvement over the K-5II in more than >> 90% of handheld shots, as you don't have everything else in the quality >> chain up to the task. >> On the other hand, you'll have evidence of the K-5IIs improvement over the >> K-5 (older model) in say 90% of shots in artificial light. >> For some reason, the K-5IIs seems to manage noise a bit better than the >> K-5II (and K-5) too. At least, the two K-5IIs bodies I had the chance to try >> did so. >> >> Dario >> >> >> -----Messaggio originale----- From: Aahz Maruch >> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 7:17 PM >> >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: Any new flagship camera rumors? >> >> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Dario Bonazza wrote: >>> >>> -----Messaggio originale----- From: Aahz Maruch >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Dario Bonazza wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Funny, as I thought of the 16MP sensor in the K-5IIs as the second >>>>> most important reason to upgrade from the K-5 (the first one being >>>>> of course the huge improvement in AF accuracy in odd light). 16MP is >>>>> already more than I need and I'm happy to delay any forced pixel >>>>> count increase as much as possible. That's a wonderful world, isn't >>>>> it? >>>> >>>> >>>> The K-5 has the same sensor, doesn't it? >>> >>> >>> Yes, but without an anti-alias filter, which means a visible jump in >>> resolution & sharpness when everything else (lens quality, steadiness >>> & focus) is at best. >> >> >> Missed that you were specifically talking about the IIs. Anyway, I took >> both II and IIs on my Alaska cruise, will report whether I notice any >> difference in sharpness (although there were essentially zero duplicate >> shots taken with the same lens on both bodies). >> -- >> Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6 http://rule6.info/ >> <*> <*> <*> >> Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> >> ----- >> Nessun virus nel messaggio. >> Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com >> Versione: 2013.0.3349 / Database dei virus: 3204/6496 - Data di rilascio: >> 16/07/2013 >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.